Top 5 lightweights in the world?

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  1. Ryan the Lion

    Ryan the Lion King of the Jungle Full Member

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    You haven't got the wit to reply.
    As for "you don't chat" , You don't chat you just drop insults like a turd. And by the way this is not a chat site this is a boxing forum, but maybe you should try a chat site as you might find more luck there because you just stink this place out :-(
     
  2. Solaris

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    This message is hidden because Ryan the Lion is on your ignore list.
     
  3. exittored

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    Didn't you say that Rickys poor performance against Gonzalez was down to over training?

    Seems like you're making excuses for Ricky just not being Elite level and it diminishes your achievements too.

    Why don't you just admit that when you took over the training over Ricky he was barely good enough to compete at British level as evidenced by his losses to Alex Arthur and Carl Johanneson and that you took his raw talent and made him a 2 weight WORLD CHAMPION.

    Burns should be extremely thankful to you Billy that you believed in him and got him to become a World Class boxer. Everyone in boxing knows you've done an amazing job for him and are the real reason behind Rickys success but even the best trainer in the world couldn't make Ricky any better or be able to compete against the Elites of the division like Gamboa, Crawford or Vasquez.
     
  4. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    Your the boring attention seeker mate, some of the shite you write you deserve a real slap
     
  5. smithshaun

    smithshaun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Billy any news on the gonzalez sparring?
     
  6. billy nelson

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    not yet mate but there's been contact
     
  7. BlackBrenny

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    Crawford top 3? over Vazquez and Shafikov? are you guys serious? jesus christ any hyped American gets their balls licked around here, he hasn't beaten anybody!!!
     
  8. BlackBrenny

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    Sorry but I must have missed when Crawford beat a top 10 opponent, elite level? based on ****ing what? oh yeah, he's slick, black and american :rofl

    thus making him automatic elite level despite having never been in a scheduled 12 rounder
     
  9. StGeorge

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    He has done nothing yet, but for me the guy is class who would give anyone in the division quite a few problems, conjecture atm ofcourse :)
     
  10. BlackBrenny

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    Plenty of prospects look good, but it takes a little more than beating Andriy Klimov to be classed as elite level, levels are proven by, as the definition would state, the levels of victory you have and the level you consistently box at, Ricky Burns has boxed at a MUCH higher level far more consistently than Crawford, so to say "Burns could never compete with elites like Crawford" when Crawford has never so much as beaten a top 10 fighter sounds a little strange you understand?
     
  11. Westy78

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    Agreed !!!!

    Although I do think Crawford will give Burns problems, and Ricky can't afford another poor performance
     
  12. StGeorge

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    Ofcourse Burns has boxed at a higher level, he is a world champion.

    I personally have never said "Burns could never compete with elites like Crawford", in fact I ranked Burns #1 in the division.

    It is all conjecture, opinions, GGG is much the same if abit more proven. I guess people think they 'see' something in crawford and rate him accordingly, as we are rating how we perceive the fighters ability rather than just achievement. I would certainly have no problem if he wasn't ranked top 5, I think arguments could be made for Burns as an example being placed anywhere from 1-4

    :)
     
  13. smithshaun

    smithshaun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good stuff cheers bill :good
     
  14. smithshaun

    smithshaun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just been looking at the records of the other lightweight champions and I think Burns resume is better than the likes of Vazquez and abril, Ricky has faced far better opposition than both of them imo and before you all keep bleating about beltran don't bother its so so boring. Burns to stop Crawford and then beat Vazquez in a unification, can't wait for ricky to silence to critics AGAIN!
     
  15. Ryan the Lion

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    Don't forget Vasquez fought Canelo twice and Tim Bradley.