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Joe Louis Vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Anthony Birts, Dec 23, 2013.

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pacquaio??....would he batter him too?

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Elroy said: ↑

I think Huck, Lebedev, Hernandez and Wlodarczyk could beat Louis personally.
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That has to be the most ******ed post I've seen for quite some time, congratulations.

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Butch Coolidge said: ↑

No, Sanders just flat out kicked his ass but the first 4 rounds of the Brewster fight and the second Brewster fight are more indicative of WK's ability. BTW Brewster and Sanders would be head and shoulders above anybody Louis fought. If Tony Galento, Schmelling and Braddock knocked JL down, Brew and Sanders would knock him out.
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Lol, the same Sanders who lost to Nate Tubbs, and the same Brewster who lost to Ettiene and Shufford? I don't think so son.

Buddy Baer is more comparable to Kevin McBride than Klitschko. Klitschko has way more speed than Baer had, better balance, a better jab, a better hook, a better right hand and a better chin.
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Klitschko is better than Baer, I agree. But he didn't have a better chin or durability. Wlad was stop by 2 guys who never beat a top 10 fighter before or after him. Baer was only stopped twice, once by the greatest heavyweight in history and the other who ko catapulted him into the top 10 and fought a who's who of top 10 fighters of his era.
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Farmboxer said: ↑

Vlad was more skilled than anyone Louis ever fought.................
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And Louis was FAR more skilled and a harder puncher than anyone Wlad has fought.

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Elroy said: ↑

LOL at JAB... Comparing Klitschko's to century old bums LOL

How's ya credibility sliding lately?

You've hit an all new low now JAB! :yep
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Feel free and try to debate about it boxrec boy. :hey

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madballster said: ↑

Louis fought in the 190-200lbs range in his prime. He'd be a cruiserweight today. Brewster weighted 225lbs vs. Klitschko in their first fight. Hardly "about the same". Brewster'd have 25lbs on Louis and easily outbox and knock the living **** out of Louis who'd look primitive next to Brewster.
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Carnera had 50lbs of muscle on Louis, What happened to him?

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JAB5239 said: ↑

Carnera had 50lbs of muscle on Louis, What happened to him?
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:rofl

"But.. but... Carnera was a simple robot"

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Elroy said: ↑

I am not yet able to post footage but the video evidence speaks a clear language. Joe Louis does not look like a technical marvel on film. His skills look average tbh and only good against the guys he is fighting which by and large look terrible. And it's not just his size, he looks far FAR slower than Wladimir Klitschko which is a disgrace because Wladimir outweighs him by nearly 50lbs!

I am not joking, anybody who is fence sitting in this debate and actually WATCHES Louis closely and then watches Wladimir could not fail to realise that Louis would be very quickly annihilated by Wlad, or by Haye. Byrd and Chambers were defensive masters, they fought a totally different fight and never had the gameplan to out blast Wladimir, they were hoping to "steal" the fight.

So much for your ramblings dinovelvet.

Pulev, Fury, Povetkin, Haye, Wlad, Vitali, Arreola, Stiverne etc all would make a nights work with Louis.. i.e. he would be non-competitive.

Tbh Joe Louis could not beat Marco Huck.
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Thanks for the laugh!!! You're officially the biggest nuthugging moron on here now!

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JAB5239 said: ↑

Thanks for the laugh!!! You're officially the biggest nuthugging moron on here now!
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Just look at Elroy exposing himself in the Ali vs. Ruddock thread, the guy has no knowledge of boxing history, ZILCH!

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madballster said: ↑

You also consider Valuev a skilled boxer? :rofl

I've said it a million times: Carnea is like the smaller brother of Valuev. Both had no proper boxing training and highly limited skill. One major difference: Valuev had a solid chin, Carnera had a fragile glass chin.
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Explain how a fighter who cannot be kept on the canvas by two of histories hardest punchers has a glass chin?

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MrMagic said: ↑

Just look at Elroy exposing himself in the Ali vs. Ruddock thread, the guy has no knowledge of boxing history, ZILCH!
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He really doesn't. He relies on boxrec and his own agenda driven fantasies and double standards.

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JAB5239 said: ↑

He really doesn't. He relies on boxrec and his own agenda driven fantasies and double standards.
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He's probably never seen a Joe Louis fight, much less studied him.

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madballster said: ↑

Carnera had a glass chin, there's no denying it. Oh, you don't believe me? Don't take my word for it, take Leon See's, Primo Carnera's manager, word:

From the moment he took Carnera into his heart, and his training camp, Leon See became a frenzied, driven man. It did not take him long to discover Primo's weakness, which was the fact that a slight tap on the chin by a man 100 pounds lighter would send Carnera reeling.

Source: "The Strange Case of Carnera", By Jack Sher, February 1948

Owned once again Dino? deal:deal
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So how do you explain Carnera getting up from Louis and Baer?

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Elroy said: ↑

Carnera and Wladimir are about as far apart as you can get!

One is among the most technical skilled giants of all time, and one is a complete oaf.

One is fast and athletic and powerful, the other is slow and plodding and **** weak for his size.

Carnera is 6" shorter, 60lbs lighter version of Valuev with even less skills! FACT.
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Very true, very true. Wlad fights like Wlad, Carnera fought like Vits....ehatever could anyone be thinking? :yep

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Strongback said: ↑

"Crave Online: Who is your favorite fighter of all time other then Manny?

Freddie Roach: Joe Louis hands down his technique, hes a textbook fighter. If you want to learn boxing by the book hes the guy to watch. A complete well schooled fighter. Not just natural ability but well schooled."

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Come on!!! What could Freddie Roach know that Elroy doesn't know better?

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