:think:think:think Giants back in the day were far more durable than these fragile robots of today. Lennox Lewis never got off the canvas to win a fight.
So you're saying Carnera getting dropped 11 times in a fight is testament of his punch resistance? :rofl
Getting wobbled and hitting the decks multiple times indicates a weak chin. Getting up doesn't make your chin much better. Wlad's and Carnera's chins are abysmal, get over it.
Very simple mate, just like in any other sport an elite athlete from 100 years ago has next to no chance against an elite athlete from today. A very objective criteria if you ask him.
Its not how many time you get knocked down that counr, its how many times you can get up and dust yourself off.
Lets talk about this for a bit than. Lets use track and field as an example. If athletes today had to the same things athletes of the past had to use, would they really be better? Picture this...no steroids, no weight lifting programs, no drugs to heal injuries quicker, no scientifically advanced fields, tracks or equipment of any kind. Are some still better? Sure. But pretty much they're the same under the same conditions. Boxing on the other hand is the one sport where the conditions don't change and the equiptment doesn't play as big a role. Fighters have gotten bigger, but they haven't gotten better. This is easy to see as they lost the ability to work the body, throw more than a 3 punch compinarion, do not use feints, parrying or slip punches anymore. Instead of using angles they back straight up or hug their opponent. So essentially you really don't have an objective criteria.
Im pretty sure just about any and every objective person holds The Ring in higher esteem than your biased, cringe worthy, garbage posts. This content is protected
That may be true in life, but not in boxing. If you got a glass chin your job is to protect it. Carnera lacked the skill and ring IQ to do so. He went into exchanges with wild swinging hands like a drunken sailor.
I am really disappointed in this discussion. Everybody is getting off track. First, Carnera was not CLOSE to Wlad. Obviously he could take a lot more punishment, no doubt. He could get up. But he was basically given the title by the mob. He was not in Wlads class, or even close. Second, the Freddie Roach statement is one that honestly should carry a lot or weight. Im pretty sure that he knows a little more than all of us. Anyone watching any film of Louis (even though film from back then can lie about speed, etc, because of the way it was done then) can easily see he is higly highly skilled. To suggest otherwise damages your credibility in this discussion. And remember, if Joe Louis came magically to 2013, even if you don't give him te he height evolution would give him, by the time he reached his prime he would have hit the weight room and had a personal nutritionist and chef and be 225-230. If the two fought 100 times, Klitschko could hold, jab, hit, hold etc and win some. Maybe occasionally knock Louis out. But the vast majority of the time Louis would catch him and knock him out. That's my opinion, but its a very rational opinion. Suggesting that Louis would struggle with todays light heavies is irrational. There are some boxing experts who value the old guys too much. IMO Dempsey is very overrated. But Louis is not. I would guess that almost ANY legitimate boxing person in the business would make Louis the favorite in this fight.
What makes you say that? Why did the conditions change in EVERY other sport on the planet where athletes have become better than their peers from the classic age. Boxing is no different. Fighters in the classic era had no modern style preparation cycle of cardio, weights, sparring with a nutrition and conditioning overlay. Galento admitted to having a diet of spaghetti and beer going into the Louis fight and people here have the nerve to chalk that up as a great win for Louis? I mean seriously, what are some of you folks thinking? Many contenders in the classic era - outside of sparring - had absolutely no sport-science based preparation at all. You can't honestly believe boxing as a sport has been stagnant for 100 years. I mean I respect opinions and all, but that just seems very odd to me. Like believing in flying saucers or the wonders vegan diets. There are people believe what they want to believe and can't be argued with.
No wait, that's Wlad, not Carnera! In Wlad's case that's proof of his glass chin. In Carnera's case it's testament of his will power and mental toughness! You couldn't make this **** up :rofl