Joe Louis Vs. Wladimir Klitschko

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  1. Boxer-MMASux

    Boxer-MMASux Active Member Full Member

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    Terrible size mismatch, but I think even still Joe would chop Vlad down like a christmas tree and probably stop him with a body shot.
    All Vlad has is a tremendous size advantage against his opponents. Take away his huge size, (and the Roids) and he is just another bum of the month.
     
  2. Boxer-MMASux

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    Vlad would have been one of Louis's Bum Of The Month candidates.
    All Vlad has is size and enough of a jab to keep his opponents at bay. Take away a foot of his height and his long time steroid usage, and he has nothing.
     
  3. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did you just say Mormeck was more skilled than Louis? Mormeck, who got knocked out by Haye?
     
  4. thesnowman22

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    Someone like Elroy wont care, but I have "Title Bout", a CPU simulation game which has all the boxers in history on it. It usually does a very good job of picking fights, and it is based on an old board game. It has been around for over 30 years.

    I simulated Wlad-Lewis 100 times. 12 rds, same cutmen and trainers, made both in their prime and in top condition. No 3 KD, no saved by bell.

    Louis 87-13-3, 74 KO
    Wlad 13-87-3, 7KO

    Then I ran it and adjusted for weight, trying to simulate if Louis came up now and was heavier:

    Louis 90-10, 85KO
    Wlad 10-90, 8KO

    To be fair, I simulated if Louis was at the end of his career and Wlad at his peak, and it came out:

    Louis 19-79-2, 17ko
    Wlad 79-19-2, 53 ko

    So we do know that a washed up Louis would still knock Wlads glass jaw out 17% of the time.

    Bottom line, 95% of knowledgable boxing people on earth pick Louis to win >50% vs Wlad. Period.
     
  5. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    sounds like a **** game that has no merit.. :deal
     
  6. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Over 90% agree it will end by KO :BOXER
     
  7. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No doubt Elroy and company with complain the simulator is biased.
     
  8. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It just takes into consideration every variable INCLUDING size. :patsch
     
  9. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You must be doing something wrong. I have the same game and it rendered 100-0 for Wlad with 70KO.
     
  10. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hurts when a computer crunches the numbers and it doesn't come out to your liking, huh? :yep
     
  11. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liar. Just like Lewis thumbed vits, huh?
     
  12. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Congrats on making the program, but it's utterly meaningless.

    The same thing was done in the 90's where when Tyson was in jail, some computer simulated a fight with Tyson and Holyfield. Hundreds of variables were fed into the program and eventually a winner was selected.

    Tyson won 96% of the time, according to the computer. Yet Holyfield won the real fight.
     
  13. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If I'm not mistaken the computer uses the very best versions of the fighters. Not that it really means its right, but it adds credence to an argument that unprovable any way you look at it.
     
  14. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know, but I would be very reluctant to hang my hat on anything a computer says.
    The main reason being that it cannot account for the unexpected, and qualities like determination are not static. Also, it's dependent on the data being fed into it, which could be subjective.
     
  15. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joe Louis - put in a time machine and transported into 2013 - wouldn't even be a contender in today's HW scene. He's simply too primitive coming from the classic era and would have trouble cracking the boxrec top #25.
     
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