Post your Super Middleweight 168 ATG Top 10 list

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  1. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was puzzled by some comments claiming I am biased about 168, so this my top 10 list to clear things up. If its way off please post your Top 10 list
    (Keep in mind this is for 168 only :roll: )

    #1 Roy Jones Jr. Dominating 44-0 ATG James Toney can't be denied
    #2 Andre Ward. His win over Carl Froch is great, few more make him #1
    #3 Carl Froch. Fought & Beat every man he faced faced except Andre Ward
    #4 Joe Calzaghe. Impressive 21 WBO Title defenses reign 1998-2007
    #5 Sven Ottke. Impressive 21 IBF Title defenses reign 1998-2004
    #6 Steve Collins. Iron Chin, bigger heart, defeated Benn & Eubank
    #7 Chang Park. First dominant champion at 168, 1984-1988
    #8 Nigel Benn. Big heart, loss and draw with Eubank, hurting G Man
    #9 Chris Eubank. 1-0-1 on paper with Benn, older times kept on fighting
    10 James Toney. Iran Barkely win & taking RJ beatdown like a man
     
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  2. Meazy-E

    Meazy-E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think yours is pretty much good, might put Ward at 1 thouh, but for the most part this is how mine would look.
     
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  3. benebox

    benebox Active Member Full Member

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    Didn't Roy only have one or two fights at 168?
     
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  4. timeout

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    1. Joe Calzaghe. Impressive 21 WBO Title defenses reign 1998-2007. Murdering Jeff Lacy and unifying the division. Destroying a undefeated Kessler. 46-0 there is no blueprint.
    2. Chris Eubank. 1-0-1 on paper with Benn, older times kept on fighting. the first man to truly test Calzaghe.
    3. Nigel Benn. Big heart, loss and draw with Eubank, hurting G Man
    4. Kessler. Blind kessler was the first to give froch a whoooping and lose his 0. The only man to truly beat him fair and square was Calzaghe.
    5. Sven Ottke. Impressive 21 IBF Title defenses reign 1998-2004
    6. Roid Jones Jr. Dominating 44-0 ATG he was good on roids baby! You must of forgot.
    7. Steve Collins. Iron Chin, bigger heart, defeated Benn & Eubank. Didnt want any of Callzaghe.
    8. Andre Ward. His win over Carl Froch is great, never going to get to greatness unless he gets a passport out of jokeland.
    9. Carl Froch. Fought & Beat every man he faced faced except Kessler, Andre Ward and Groves
    10. James Toney. Iran Barkely win & taking RJ beatdown like a man

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    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Give the guy a break. He only started watching boxing 2 months ago.:lol::rofl:patsch
     
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  6. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had Ward #1, but then I rewatched his fight vs 44-0 Toney, his 5 defenses...still I put Ward down at #2 cause he can still change it, one more defense I guess :think
     
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  7. Meazy-E

    Meazy-E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Eubank was old and B-Hop arguably beat him, just because official record has a W by Calzaghe's name doesn't mean he has to agree, especially since it is all subjective and based on 3 other people's opinion. Lacy was a hype job, and for the record the fight with Hopkins was at LHW.

    Calzaghe has a relatively weak Resume, and RJJ fought at 168 more than twice. Ward has best resume of any SMW though I would agree Calzaghe could have a top 3 claim over RJJ.

    I don't think he can be called a hater just because his opinion doesn't align with yours. Sounds like you are just a Calzaghe meat rider.
     
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  8. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I really dislike everything about Ward, but the difference is that I am rational

    If I dislike someone, I am still openminded enough to appreciate his work be it a loaf of bread or a needy daughter...

    Andre Dirrell beat Kessler I didn't add him...Eubank in his prime? Hopkins in 168? You see who is biased :tired...Do you see Jeff Lacy anywhere on the ATG list :dead
     
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  9. second to none

    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe is above Froch and at least 2nd and IMO 1st why does he never get the respect he deserves.
     
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  10. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Even if Froch goes 0-10 from now on, he will still be above Calzaghe

    1998-2004 both Calzaghe and Ottke claimed title belts in the same part of the world, both stacked 21 defenses...And were happy to avoid each other...both to blame...

    Froch ducked nobody and he beat every man he faced, except Andre Ward, if he can revenge it he will be #1

    Hell I will even acknowledge a fight between Ottke and Calazage now...both are equally not interested :tired
     
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    Really that's impressive, since Kessler and Direll never fought each other.

    Sven Ottke, I wouldn't have him in my top 10.
     
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  12. willcross

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    1. Jones
    2. Ward
    3. Taylor
    4. Tito Trinidad (Hypothetical)
    5. Eubank
    6. Froch
    7. Eubank
    8. Calzaghe
    9. Lacey
    10. Eric Crumble
     
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  13. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Froch beat Taylor, Taylor win vs Lacy means little as Lacy is not ATG

    Trinidad is bankrupt in 168, he is the perfect bully. His style is best at Welter, not in this list

    Lacy was an undersized title holder/overachiever much respect to him, not an ATG
     
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  14. willcross

    willcross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good points, but Crumble's cool at 10 right?
     
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  15. Bub

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    Calzaghe ducked nobody and beat every man he faced with no exceptions. Calzaghe didn't lose to Kessler. Calzaghe > Froch.
     
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