How broke is Holyfield?

Holyfield messed around with the same beady eyed dudes that Joe Louis and Wesley Snipes. He is as broke as Joe Louis and no longer has the money earning potential to rebound like Snipes.
Pac has made the same mistake, messing with those usual bankrupting suspects.

I have to give Holyfield a small piece of credit for stating the obvious in his comments during the reality show. It is a choice due to mental illness and not a natural genetic inheritance as that stupid Joo Broad mis-stated.

 

The average intelligence on here doesn't seem very high. I suppose it's obvious boxing would have a lot of knuckleheads following it, but it's a pity for people who have two brain cells to rub together, and can do things like base their views on evidence rather than blind prejudice.

Still a great sport, and I like reading many of the discussions here about it. A pity about the pondlife, but oh well. I can console myself that the march of progress is against them and their ill-informed prejudices, which are becoming rarer and rarer with each new generation.

 

I think you're the ignorant one, since there is absolutely no scientific study stating that people are born gay, pythagoras.



Race and ***uality bear a lot of similarities? I... I :shock:atsch

One's ethnic/cultural/racial background and genetic traits associated with bear similarities to a person's ***ual preference?

So you are basically saying said that being prejudiced for the color of your skin and being prejudiced for ***ual deviations are similar? ****atsch:blood


You, my dear friend are in fact utterly ******ed, and your thought process lacks logic

 

Pythagoras? What does a Greek mathematician have to do with anything? :?

There is exactly the evidence you say doesn't exist. Funny how people can make claims that are sheer lies if it suits their agenda. I'm going to take a guess and assume you haven't done the slightest bit of research into this topic you are spouting hate about.

I won't say the evidence is conclusive, but it exists and the bulk of it suggests homo***uality is genetic on some level (not to mention common sense - you wouldn't *choose* to be gay any more than I would. The idea of doing it with a man is something I could never choose to do, as I'm not wired that way. Could you choose to be gay, ever? I'm guessing not. Wonder why? Also, I wonder why anyone would choose to be gay over straight when there are so many ignorant bigots in the world itching to suppress them, or call them "deviants").

Perhaps you can explain these things to me, as I am apparently ******ed and incapable of logical thought. :nut

The lack of it being something can be helped is what makes it similar to race. As is the fact that suppressing people for either reason is the domain of shitty human beings. These are stark similarities that have been observed by many. But these people are probably all "******s" anyway, according to forums poster "The Peasant" and his deeply-researched views.

That whole discussion is a red herring, anyway. Even if it weren't a choice, who cares? It's no business of yours or anyone's what other people do in their bedroomsm as long as it is consensual and doesn't involve children or animals. Humanity is diverse; those of us who are tolerant understand this, and that ***uality is a broad spectrum. Those of us who don't use narrow-minded words like "deviant".

This whole obsession with what other people do between the sheets is deeply pathetic. Leaving aside the fact that a lot of the most vehement and outspoken homophobes have turned out to be gay themselves.

 

I'm not going to waste time reading through your whole post.

Post the studies & evidence that show people are born gay. Go ahead. I'm talking conclusive scientific study results, not news stories or blog posts.

And the fact that you can't see the irony in calling an idiot "Pythagoras" is a statement to your own stupidity.

 

If you're not going to read my post, why on earth should I bother with you for a moment longer? You're not going to be reasoned out of a position that you haven't reasoned yourself into, and your prejudice and pathetic disregard for reason is plain for anyone reading to see.

Why on earth should I waste time finding studies that you will not read? Especially when I am about to sit down and watch Spartacus with my wife (who is far more deserving of my time than yet another ignorant internet homophobe). Do your own research if you're really interested in learning the current scientific consensus (which I know you aren't).

Furthermore, as I pointed out, what does it even matter even if it is a choice? Didn't get that far in my post, did you? All those words must have been a big struggle, eh? What an intellectual titan you are.

 

I'm not reading that either.

Post conclusive proof of your claim or **** off.

The burden of proof in on you, dip****.

:thumbsup

 

You want me to post proof (the burden is not on me any more than you by the way), but you refuse to read my posts, like a petulant child. Completely missing broader points made as a result. You have made yourself look quite ridiculous. Do some reading and educate yourself - you need it big time. I doubt anything will ever sway you from your bigotry, though.


Thanks for the unedifying "discussion". I'm off to enjoy my evening.

 

I feel sad for him in one sense but really how disgusting to blow almost 300M i mean it was his fault for being so greedy and spending so much, also what an idiot for having 11 kids with what 8 women or something as Jeremy Kyle would say should have put something on the end of it. Evander was a great great fighter but what a hypocrite so Christian yet several kids outside Wedlock, cheating and wasting money not exactly a saint is he. However about his views on Gays well it seems gays want to have the right to openly express themselves and how they feel well it works both ways if they are free to do that then Evander and others are allowed hold their own different views. Gay people are so intolerant of opinions that don't match their own.

 

How can you tell if a Animal is Gay or BI????? Your just a typical Lib that is destroying the USA. If you want to go lay with another man do it. I call BS on animals being gay. Male animals are out to get as much ***** as they can. I always see male cats fighting over a female. I never see the packing each other. I have seens dogs do try to do that but they are confused are to dumb to know any better.

 

Why would someone with 15 posts be in here preaching about gays??? WHat is your real name on this forum?

 

Scrap any research or studies. This man hasn't seen male cats go at if, seen dogs but that doesn't count because they're dumb.

It's possible in your lifetime, that someone you know, maybe someone close comes out as being gay. Your view may change and you're gonna feel stupid.

To the people who say its unnatural? What if you found out you're impotent? You cannot reproduce. That's not natural. Should you be ridiculed and abused for that?

Holyfield is entitled to his opinion, but he also says a doctor can fix being gay. His equities must've been invested in finding this cure...we're still waiting.
Anyway, Holyfield is dumb. After beating tyson he said something like 'my God won'. Not certain about Christianity, but in Islam, there is 1 God which is shared.

Back to homo***uality and how people find it disgusting? Your parents screwed to conceive you, think about that, very pleasant. Let others do as they wish, they're not harming you so just chill the fcuk out.

 

The people who seem to take the anti-gay route on here and claim that there are facts to back up what they say or that there are no facts to back up what the other argument is saying are actually wrong. All of the stuff mentioned here; being born gay, animals being gay or bi***ual in nature, etc.... those are proven facts. If you choose to be ignorant or too lazy to look into it yourself than that is on you.

It is pretty nasty how people think, though.

Career suicide for any athlete to come out as being gay. This thread shows it.

 

Some people are born gay. I'm not saying that is not true. And I'm from the deep south but like if said I don't care about who other people want to go to bed with if they are happy so be it. You being with another man does not effect my life. We are told the USA is a FREE COUNTRY. Obama is gay himself if you take some time to do some reading. If you like to have *** with a man go for it. As long as it don't hurt anyone else I could care less. But stop trying to shove it down everyones throats and use the race card. Being gay is a ***ual thing. Your not a race.

 

Once you give aberrant(sp) behaviour an inch, it takes a mile.