How broke is Holyfield?

Yeah, sounds as if Holyfield has been watching Fox Noise Channel a lot lately.

Holyfield got paid well for his last fight at "The Greenbrier" for his last fight, but that was still not enough. I don't know what he will do..............but as far as I know he is broke.................

 

DAMN I hope he can get out of the hole. I think he can live a okay life if he gets out of debt.

 

if Xsitans are allowed to support their anti gay stance by saying its not natural, why are gays not allowed to support their gay stance by correcting them?

seems you want to take the proven wrong stance and claim its right using evidence that tells you that you are wrong.

 

It was tongue-in-cheek to an extent, simply as I love dogs much more. My dog doesn't eat ****, however. And dogs are certainly socially more intelligent than cats, though there are different forms of intelligence.

Your accusations are on shaky ground. Accusing me of not being able to think for myself, when my position is entirely based on my own reasoning and my own fundamental tolerance of diversity and the rights of others to live as they wish as long as they hurt no one. Ironically, yours is most likely down to received prejudice, itself most likely based in a questionably-translated book written by desert-dwelling goat herders.

Nor do your assertions make any sense. ***ual urges are things we are born with, just like anyone's ***uality. Your attempt to paint a ***ual urge as something that is apart from ***uality is simply wrong and goes against everything humankind knows of the subject. Fetishists, gays, straights, whatever - who cares if no one is harming anyone else? Apart from religious right winger types, who always seem to care what other people are doing in their bedrooms. Creepy.

I am not "trying" to justify anything - I am successfully doing it, but that will never sink in with you, as evidenced by your ridiculous arguments. You repeat the pathetic and dishonest comparison between abuse and a completely consensual act between two gay people, just like the other bigoted conservatives always do. The same for your other dishonest comparisons with the likes of cannibalism. And you accuse me of not being able to think for myself? Beyond laughable.

This will go nowhere - you are clearly fundamentally intolerant and of limited reasoning ability, parroting the same risible illogic and sophistry as others of your ilk. It is not something that is surprising, given that intolerance and prejudice are firmly rooted in ignorance. I am only thankful that the progress proves you a dinosaur, on the wrong side of history, who will one day be viewed along similar lines to the opponents of the civil rights movement. How does that feel, I wonder.

And I now I must bow out of this for good, as there is no point in continuing to argue with someone who does so disingenuously and so frantically searches for excuses to hate his fellow man who is hurting no one. Enjoy festering in your own bile and intolerance, I guess. Seeya.

 

:deal

 

Here come the insults to Christianity & the bible

Someone is getting defensive.

Why aren't you mentioning Muslims, who punish homo***uality by death? Is it because you are so tolerant of diversity, as you said (except of Christianity, huh?)? Jews also have a similar stance to Christians on the matter. I could be of either religion,- I could be an atheist, as I never used theological reasoning in my arguments- yet you choose to attack Christianity

Is a tradition which is thousands of years old, like Christinaity, Islam or Judaism not entitled to keep its core beliefs? Should it be prejudiced for them? That is what the Nazis & Communists did, and now its pushed under the guise of "tolerance". Why can't you tolerate other's differing point of view? Why don't you tolerate Christians & their beliefs? You call yourself "tolerant" yet your so called tolerance of diversity seems to be very selecive

You say that I care what people do in their bedrooms Are you too stupid to deduce the point of my argument? I could care less about the ***ual behavior of two grown men. I'm against it becoming a public/political/civil matter which nowadays is forced onto people and taught to children. I don't like the fact that its paraded around, pushed into people's faces & embraced as something special. You called homo***uality an urge- why should a ***ual urge rise to the status of a legitimate lifestyle/political/civil rights issue? Its not a biologically valid lifestyle, so why should it become one? Why cant people keep their ***uality to themselves and do whatever they like in peace of their home? Why does it have to be public?


You are too stupid to actually reason in a logical manner, repeating the same **** over and over agains without citing any factual information. You even fail to address the most important points of my arguments, and instead you clutch at straws like the utter idiot that you are. And now, as the final measure you resort to insulting relgious groups

This is too easy:roll:

You seem to care more about whats happening in people's bedrooms that most Christians/Muslims etc. You'd probably clap & cheer when you saw two men ****ing

So tolerant
So progressive
So accepting

I don't expect you to come here with any facts or address any actual part of my arguments, so I'll stop knocking you around.

 

It is not natural. It is a deviation and darwin theory takes care of it in the wild. Humans use science to treat deviations and there is ample evidence that homo***uality is treatable psychiatric disorder like many others.

 

Great argument, with clear concise reasoning behind it. It's actually quite frightening at how strong the pro-gay lobby is around the world. Considering they are a very small minority group, they are able to destroy anyone who shows a remotely anti-gay sentiment.

The big problem is, and which is stated in your post, is that all the three Abrahamic religions are against the practice of homo***uality, to be precise, the ***ual action of buggery.

 

I'm a straight married man with a daughter and another child on the way, but I dislike bigotry, especially when accompanied by aggressive idiocy as we've seen in this thread from posters not worth any more effort, who consider campaigning for equal rights and tolerance forcing things down people's throats/teaching children, whatever that means, or who throw out constant straw men.

I just hope that none of the homophobes in here never have any children who are gay - I deeply pity those kids if so.

 

i cant get a girlfriend.

 

Again "The Hound" fails to address or understand the argument, instead replying with personal insults. :tired

Nothing screams stupidity like the inability to comprehend the actual argument & pathetic attempts to hide one's own ignorance under childish labels. Its easy to call someone an intolerant homophobe instead of proving them wrong,- that's what stupid people do. And coincidentally, that is what you keep on doing.


Btw, your family facade will fall once you decide to come out of the closet (In your case, basement or bamboo cage) in a couple years:yep