Corruption in boxing?

Wow, didn't think of that. Maybe you are right.

 

Agreed.

What can you really accuse a big time promoter of doing if he decides to give one of the judges a "gift"? I'm assuming it's all subtle stuff. Not like, "Here is 100K in this envelope, I would like fighter X to win, thank you." I'm assuming corruption has been around boxing forever and the subtle ways of conducting corruption have been refined over time where it's almost impossible to catch anyone in the act.

 

Edit: as for casinos fixing "The One," - Very unlikely. Casinos don't fix fights, or other sporting events, and their exposure on something like Floyd by UD would not even be pocket change compared to their overall business. You're suggesting that these huge, multi-national corporations are venturing into organized crime, and that their employees go along with it, all to gain minuscule amounts of money.

More likely, Ross understood that a rematch would be a cash bonanza and bent over backwards to find a way to set one up.

 

No, i'm not suggesting that the casinos were in on the fix. I'm saying that all it takes is one promoter to walk up to CJ Ross and give her a "gift" for being a good judge and simply hint at something like a draw.

I have no idea what the odds were for Floyd to win via MD but i'm sure it was pretty dam good odds.

 

Oh it goes on in boxing. Watch the Chavez Jr v Vera fight or the De Leon vs Broner fight for proof of this.

The only 3 people in the entire world who saw those fights Chavez and Broner was the 3 judges sitting at ringside.

 

Ah, my mistake. That's possible, but I think it's generally not needed. She was paid $8,000 for the fight. Promoters pay the judges fees. If they like a judge, they can get them more and better work.

Also, when judges travel, promoters pay for their flights, put them up in a nice hotel for several days around the fight and even give them a per diem. So if you want to give a judge a big fat gift, you can do it right out in the open by getting them to judge a fight in Tokyo or London.

Similar to politics, at least in the US. Why give a politician a suitcase full of cash, when you can just pay them $20,000 to come give a speech at your company, nice and legally?

 

You could argue that corruption didn't exist if all the bad judging, dodgy referee decisions and other nonsense that goes on didn't all go in favour of the home fighter/main draw.

Pac vs Bradley and Oscar vs Trinidad are two fights were you could argue that the star got robbed but these are very rare instances.

 

Yeah well said, that somes up boxing. Amateur boxing is rife with corruption as well, arguably worse...definately in terms of decisions.

 

Is the Pope a catholic ?

 

its not everywhere but it deff. goes on.

don king enough said.
all his fighter are involved in controversy fights.

alexander/kotelnik
tito/oscar
campillo/cloud

i dont even kno why anyone would even sign with don king.

 

I think many famous stinkers are actually rigged to go 12, or over certain rounds.

 

robert deniro took a dive in raging bull and cried about it. FACT.

 

There was an earlier thread about the Canelo/Floyd fight being fixed and some here were acting like that was an impossibility.

 

exactly
no evidence has ever been brought to light with major fights....i can think of a few small time promoters like the guy that promoted mark gastinea , rick "elvis" parker