Like he did in the second part of the Pavlic fight? Martinez has a very good stamina for once a lot better than Canelo or his current manager ODLH used to have.
yes you are a kid who knows nothing about this sport. canelo was NOT tired vs floyd, he was hessitent to attack due to getting countered cleanly.. if you knew anything you would KNOW floyd does this to every opponent, he takes away your offense and hits way harder then you clowns try to claim. ask ANY opponent of his.. against trout he fought defensively, NO he wasnt tired after 6 rounds, like MOST pros they were both weary after 9/10 rounds BUT i have NEVER seen canelo have any real stamina issues. show me ONE fight where his stamina played a factor. positive you dont know the difference between a tried fighter and a cautious fighter.. and IF you cant see canelos skills you need to follow a much much easier sport. and fyi: canelo is going to destroy the dude that beat up lara pretty easily
lmao. then he was also hesitant against mosley and gomez lol. pac-dela hoya first 5 rounds: the guy they call zombie almost average 2x than canelo's output. canelo landed 1 power punch in the first round against floyd, similar **** against 90 yr old mosley. similar **** you see in the gomez fight. that is a clear round management. if that is not stamina issue then why the need to manage output per round at very low level.
cant believe im wasting my time with you. its clear you dont have a clue what stamina is. when you have stamina issues, you hit that wall and become weak, have trouble taking glancing blows, lose your legs easily and have trouble recovering. NOT once has canelo EVER been in that situation, martinez has been there multiple times. i had never seen ODH have these stamina issues, i had seen him coast a couple times and become too hesitant during the end portion of fights but stamina issues ? stamina issues impacts ones thinking strength ability to absorb shots and ability to recover. now you might have a clue what stamina issues will look like. you'r welcome for the 100th lesson i've given you for free. all these lessons i been giving you yet, you have never giving me a single thing except nonstop hate posts and ignorance after ignorance. you know ignorance is a choice
you are a ****ing idiot. reason canelo isnt hitting the wall is because they are managing his output. how dumb can you get. who is 20 yr boxer with an output of 30+ a round? lmao.
fighters output is dependent on who the opponent is meatball. you will never learn anything about this sport. another fact punch output is NOT an = to stamina. you just admitted to me an everyone with a brain cell and pulse that you are clueless about what stamina is.. by your tared logic paq has stamina issues. he hardly threw anything vs timmie and only threw for 30/45 seconds of each round. please get a clue on ANYTHING related to boxing... your opponent has much to say about how one looks, how much they throw or not throw
lmao. now youre reaching. the pac that fought bradley was clearly managin his output, fighting only a third of every round. you can say that he had stamina issues in that fight. but that was an unfocused pac. see waht happens when a focus pac, in the rios fight. and pac is 35 yrs old ffs. a 20 yrs old pac easily throws 100 per round. stamina != output. partially agree, except when you are 22 yrs old and 30 fights into your career, you always have low output no matter the opponent. what is it telling you? canelo has stamina issues and they are managin his output to a point where he will be competitive in 12 rounds. the root of the problem might be, canelo is too heavy at his division. he might be draining too much. he has thick bones, thick body, thick skull. his head head is almost 2x bigger than floyd. ****, a 34 yo drained dela hoya, the zombie guy, threw almost 2x punches (ave. ~60) in the first 5 rounds agianst pac than canelo did against floyd, yet they call him zombie. and canelo did similar against granpa mosley and gomez and maybe others. so the excuse that it was floyd, that was bull****. floyd drained gasnelo:good edit: and like 70pct of his punches are jabs lmao.
caenlo sucks nobody will buy this fight. he can't move up a division either, middlweight would eat him up and spit him out.
What are you talking about? Mayorga was not "really good" and he played the role perfectly. He was a solid boxer but he was a level below the top fighters in his era. You also have Broner who is very average and he plays the villain role very well. They're going more for a Golden Boy image for Canelo.
i cant deal with the ignorance, if you were willing to learn a little to understand the basics of boxing that would be different. lets agree to agree you truly DKSAB nor will you ever with your hatred and inability to accept incoming knowledge. a fighter who is and always has been a calculated counter puncher with the ability to be a boxer/puncher doesnt = stamina issues in any way. you need to understand how bad stamina truly affects fighters
lmao. looks like your example of pac against bradley didnt work. i dont take lesson from a guy whose hobby is getting punched in the face.:hi:
you keep proving how dumb you are. the paq reference was 100% from your logic. i was pointing out how wrong you are. he didnt have stamina issues is that fight, you say he wasnt focused LOL ok ok. he just had someone in front of him that wasnt just sitting there letting him tee off and he was frustrated from missing so badly after a few rounds and add to that timmie started moving from him which is exactly the way to make paq into a poor fighter. he cant handle movement and it had NOTHING to do with his stamina, timmie changed his plan and paq had no answers. it was NOT paqs stamina issues, he wasnt tired or weakened in any way. wow just wow you are so lost its beyond sad for someone who spends most of his life on ESB posting nonsense nonstop
youre the idiot. floyd is counter puncher, marquez is counter puncher. you think at 37 and 40 yrs old, they have output of 30+ a round? lmao. you dont stop do you. pac has stamina issues in the bradley fight. you can clearly see he is managing the rounds, resting at the beginning and working towards the end. lmao at pac has no answer. PAC WAS ****ING BORED AND COASTED AT THE END. HE WAS WINNING THE FIGHT LIKE A SHUTOUT. (or are you one of those who thought bradley won ahahahahhahahaha. now i have no more argument. maybe you want to argue the 99pct who watched the pac fight.) pac wasnt tired or weakened. he was managing his energy, managing the round, precisely so he wont get tired. what were you watching. floyd did the same thing against canelo towards the end, he coasted when the win was already in the bag. im off. argue that bradley won or close, with someone else.:good
one like you will never understand this sport at all, not even on a novice level. i am so glad you are done, you're talking like a little child that KNOWS he is wrong yet continues to argue using flawed logic. and i had paq beating timmie, and think timmie is just decent, not elite, never can be elite. he doesnt posses any of the needed skills to be elite. good B fighter that paq struggled with even though clearly winning
So Canelo sitting on the ropes in round 7 getting the SH*T beat out of him was "defensive strategy"??? You're a f*cking idiot.