Martinez gets a pass for ducking because he's supposedly 'earned it'. You'd think we were talking about an ATG here, when in reality we're talking about an overachiever story who's sole elite win was Paul Williams. Martinez came up through LMW, caught everyone's attention when he shutout and stopped Alex Bunema in 8. Looking very good as well - reflexes, slick, decent power and throws a lot of shots. He followed that up with a nonsense robbery against Kermit Cintron, where he KO'd Cintron in 8 and then subsequently somehow Cintron got counted out and that got reversed, then won the remaining rounds and it was a draw. So we feel for that, bull**** on a guy coming up and working hard against a joker in Kermit Cintron. Then we get the awesome Williams 1 fight that was a fair score for Williams, which Martinez followed up with KO of the year. Martinez looking good, new champion on the block, let's see what's next - You've got a MW match up now against returning Kelly Pavlik, competitive fight til a big cut, Martinez on the deck, Martinez finishes strong and shows grit, versatility and hardness vs. a bigger man difficult style for his own style. Looking even better. Then he does the MW round a bout against your Dziziruk, Macklin, Barker and so on. Good stuff, but MW a bit weak admittedly, but you're fighting who's there and being the champ. But also hitting the deck multiple times and looking vulnerable because you're just a GOOD fighter that's overachieved and that takes a mind of it's own, especially a guy who's been ignored and super motivated to make that $$$. Then we move onto Chavez Jr, who did not even deserve a shot at the title. HBO wanted to turn Chavez Jr into boxing's next Mexican rock star but the clown is too undisciplined and spoiled to make the most out of it and is a PED freak at that. With a 30 pound weight advantage, Chavez Jr got his ass whipped for 11 rounds and scored a KD after Martinez injured his knee. Boxing fans are so ridiculously stupid compared to fans of the easier to analyze team sports that have stats that are more reflective and cut and dry that it's laughable. Many of them acted like Chavez was the superior for this late round KD, a man who couldn't even capitalize on it. So anyway, resume looking like - Williams, Pavlik, Barker, Macklin, Dzinziruk and Chavez Jr is 1 elite win, 1 good win and 3 decent wins and 1 win over an over sized hype job. Consistency good, so that's extra points and note that I am critiquing as compared to ATG resume's, not just resume's of current, because fans are acting like Martinez is This content is protected on a Senior Tour and has done enough to fight some retirement money scrub affairs and doesn't need to any longer fight the best in his weight realm and has earned the right to duck. NOW - Ducking the first elite level threat of your MW reign. Martinez is listed as old.... but the man's only been at the championship level since late 2009 and mid 30s was his prime, as everyone's prime is different. Sure, you have injuries, but he's taken time off and really is interested in still fighting for that money, so he's good to me. You have held the lineal title since 2010 and you advertise yourself as the real deal, your fans advertise you as the real deal. The underrated overachieving champ that fights everybody, too old to be champ in 2008 as a prospective champ.... but you make it.... you hold the lineal title now for almost 4 years. You're holding Bernard Hopkins' lineal title that he broke the defense record with.... which Bernard gladly fought the highly touted heir to his throne at age 40. Yes. Well, legends are such for a reason... And you won't fight the first legit threat to your reign, the heir the throne. To hell with that and those who defend it so Martinez can fight a shot to bits Welterweight that wouldn't stand a chance against any top fighter @154 or 160. Real fans watch boxing to see the best gladiators vs. the best gladiators. Silly modern fake fans watch it seemingly to see their favorite gladiator celebrities make the most money they can in non-sense, may as well be scripted affairs instead of the greatest spectacle on earth - which is an elite championship boxing match. That is all, -Real Boxing Fans.
I'm not going to even bother reading the opening post. Anyway, Martinez has been injured and out of action for a year. He's had a great career and has fought a lot of good opponents. I have no problem with him making Cotto his comeback fight. As far as Golovkin, he needs to pay his dues and stay in his lane. His time will come.
Some fans refuse to acknowledge the business and politics of boxing. With that, it would be great if Martinez sought out GGG. Cotto is a big money fight though, and who can really blame him, especially after he was out so long with an injury.
Sergio is not ducking anybody :nono He will fight Cotto if he wins, then Mayweather & you better believe he is not walking away till he turns his sword against GGG :smoke If he fights GGG now & risks losing, he will never be able to fight Cotto & Mayweather. So no blame, pick up the $, then fight the legacy fight Mayweather is hoping Cotto chin will withstand Sergio power, if not its not certain that Mayweather will face Martinez...In that case he atleast picked up a payday with Cotto and will face GGG, who himself wants to be in 154 hoping for a Mayday :yep
^ This as well. If the OP were in Martinez' shoes I'm sure he would fight GGG instead of Cotto for relative peanuts, though. :roll:
DiBella and Martinez said they don't want to hear anything about Golovkin. He isn't saying fight Cotto as a tune up/come back and then take on his MW challenge, it's total ignore. That usually indicates DUCK. It's a duck job. And as per usual, as I posted in the original post, we have modern fans here posting about what money a fighter will make and caring about such more than the best fights being made. None of this is real boxing. It's a joke. Though, forgot I am in *****-ville here. *****'s don't enjoy real boxing.
please specify the contradiction :twisted: I want to see Martinez vs Cott, Mayweather & GGG...not just one of them...Sorry if you can't handle the thought of Marinez landing something on Mayweather
I am not a Mayweather fan. (In fact, I'd love to seem him get KTFO!) But like I can't stand for 'Money' ducking Pac, I also can't stand Martinez ducking GGG,, although he hasn't been ducking as long as the supposed p4p king. That said, Cotto's never fought at middleweight, like Khan's never fought at welterweight. Both fights are examples of cherry picking. Whether or not one situation/fight is worse than the other is aside from the point--b/c they're both ducking!
Oh, and Martinez and his team said Golovkin need to pass the 'test' that was Curtis Stevens. Ppl seem to have forgot that ridiculous position. Really, Sergio has been a great champ worthy of the Hall of Fame. But he knows his time is done b/c of age and injuries. He's looking to cash out. If he has dignity, he walk away.
"Martinez is ducking nobody" "But if he fights GGG he risks losing and can't fight Cotto and Mayweather!" Contradiction. And you are defending a Donald Duck. Fans prior to this Mayweather era were never so obsessive about what fighters earn and didn't use it nearly as an excuse like they do now for the best fighting the best not happening. Even in the DLH era, most of the fights we wanted got made and the money talks were mostly done outside of the fan, or after the fact. Sorry, not into this. Into real fights. :scaredas:
What also is great are all of these so called boxing fans on here throwing around multi-million dollar figures sitting in their section-8 housing bedrooms. #realfans #tbe
Ducking is when Sugar Ray Robinson ducked Burley or Mayweather ducked Williams & Margarito (meaning those will never ever happen) Sergio Martinez will fight GGG, its just a career move for both...to fight later Sorry if I been abrasive in previous posts...always remember I know everything...Any insult towards me usually means I hurt your feelings somewhere in the past...I sincerely apologize...Just don't try to pull the double digit IQ attack on me...always know that I know exactly where you are coming from...I am Angel Garcia best friend