The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    there already was a poll. and everyone except paq lovers and or floyd haters picked same size.

    deal with it, no matter how much you want floyd to be a huge WW it'll never be true.
    you just have to deal with how boxing works, by weight which equals size.

    fact, paq weighs MORE on fight night than the HUGE floyd
     
  2. jmmpbf

    jmmpbf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    also the problem was.... floyd never believe pac was as big as him (because nobody is, on floyds mind) floyd calls the shots and always will.

    Pac was willing to do the tests even though he wasnt sure himself, but ARUM wasnt going to let him do it. plus if either side was juicing it will only made out to the public when both fighters are retired, too much money involved to stop the cash flow.
     
  3. shinkuhadoken

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  4. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let me get this straight, if "size" is determined completely by weight alone, are you idiots telling me that 1 ton of cotton is the same size as say one ton of steel?

    Let that sink in for a moment.

    You idiots are all gonna tell me that a ton of cotton that will probably be truckloads of cotton, is the same "size" as your average sedan (which usually weighs more or less a ton)?

    You're telling me that this:

    http://westernfarmpress.com/site-fi...e/large_img/uploads/2012/07/cotton-2011-2.jpg

    Is the same SIZE as this:

    http://imganuncios.mitula.net/2009_toyota_vios_99231310197972462.jpg


    Merrriam Webster defines size as "physical magnitude, extent, or bulk : relative or proportionate dimensions" (and here's your link: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/size)

    Size IS NOT WEIGHT. How simple semantics like this is not understood by supposed English speaking people is beyond me.

    There's a reason there are small/short heavy weights like Tyson. Or tall/big WW like Williams, Margarito and Hearns.
    So you're telling me that Valuev is the same SIZE as Tyson? Pleeeease.

    Size = dimensions, proportionality.
    Weight = a factor of mass.

    If you don't understand that, then please chop off your balls and spare the world from your genes.
     
  5. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    manny, is the coward here for running away, and then taking test 4 years later right?
     
  6. articuno

    articuno Active Member Full Member

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    I feel sorry for pacs fans

    whole new level of sadness.
     
  7. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    goodboy, you are an uninformed jackass!
     
  8. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So since "we are talking about boxing" and both Haye and Valuev fought in the HW division (i.e. they are in the same boxing weight class) they are of the same size?

    http://www.boxingnews24.com/wp-content/uploads/valuev-haye3.jpg

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11_02/valuevG0811_650x429.jpg

    How about Valuev's other opponents:

    http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/1283/Nikolay-Valuev-Bergeron13.jpg

    http://www.ploxr.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/a.aaa_808.jpg

    I don't know about you ******s, but I see two COMPLETELY differently sized people in those pictures above EVEN IF THEY WERE LEGIT HEAVYWEIGHTS.

    Idiots.
     
  9. robert80

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    floyd, has failed to make the welterweight limit, when was this?
     
  10. HereToAnnoy

    HereToAnnoy New Member Full Member

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    Who exactly is a pac fan here?
     
  11. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    you guys are phukin clown.
    i am pretty sure valuev has about 50 lbs on haye. given they are both HW's mean sh!t since all you have to do is weight OVER 200. not weight exactly say 225.

    and BOXING, the sport we are discussing is measured by weight, no matter how much you disagree.

    ALL paqs and floyds measurements were made public in 2010 or 11 and paq was BIGGER in the majority of said measurements. add to that fact he weighs MORE they are relatively the SAME size
     
  12. boxing_master

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    when he faced marquez
     
  13. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    pac-gamboa would be a bad fight if floyd wants to fight pacquio.

    pac-gamboa would be a bad fight if jmm wants to fight pacquio.

    pac-gamboa would be a bad fight if bradley wants to fight pacquio.

    with pac's available option, pac-gamboa is a good fight.

    pac id 5' 6.5" 149 on fight night.

    gamboa is 5' 5.5" 145+ on fight night.
     
  14. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The amazing thing about what Freddie said would logically have a purpose. He's not dumb, or stupid, and so wouldn't have made an obvious colossal error in a statement as the one he made. It looks like an obvious attempt to preemptively make an "I didn't know claim" for if it all hits the fan. These guys no longer like each other, and I'm guessing Ariza may have threatened Freddie behind closed doors that if he were to ever go down, he would bring Freddie with him. This "miscalculated" statement of Freddie's would be his only play, and everything would make sense.
     
  15. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, you're the idiot who probably grew up in the ghetto, have no amount of schooling whatsoever, and putting all his eggs on boxing, which you will inevitably fail at, who do not understand the basic concept of what "size" is.

    Size is dimensions. Not my word. Merriam Webster's.
    Weight is mass.

    There are big, averaged sized and small career welterweights.
    See Hearns, Margarito and Williams.
    Then there are small welterweights like Pacquiao.
    Floyd is average. Pac is SMALLER than him, BUT THEY MORE OR LESS WEIGHS THE SAME. That means their mass is nearly identical. Not height or reach or proportionality, MASS.
    There's a reason why boxing announcers like Roy Jones QUALIFY boxers as big/small too, even if they belong in the same division. It's because they actually understand basic semantics.

    But hey what do I know, English is only my second language, SURELY you know better than I do. Or Merriam Webster's. Or all those boxing media who calls Pac a small welter. And Williams/Hearns/Margarito big welters.

    :tired
     
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