The great Teófilo Stevenson

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  1. TheGreenlad

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    Its actually not true tho, he won a gold medal when he was just 20! against fighters far older than himself!
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Stevenson was better in the heart, chin, speed, endurance departments than Ali?

    This forum is ****ing nuts
     
  3. TheGreenlad

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    naw u jus dont know **** bout boxing, he had better skills power footwork harder puncher bigger just as fast, stronger and he had a great chin and heart
     
  4. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    that was his first one, so what?
    the next one he was 24
    then 28

    ali was 18 years old when he won his

    stevenson was a giant man fighting boys
     
  5. TheGreenlad

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    Your wrong you don't seem to realize that its not age that mattered or experience he won becuase he was soo talented, at 20 he was beating everyone age is irrelevant
     
  6. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    yeah he proved that pretty well by getting knocked out in 3 rounds :patsch
     
  7. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Putting all of the irrational crap aside, I do rate Stevenson very highly

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4yfdzkW0vQ

    He was extremely skilled and athletic for his size. He would have been a good name Ali could have added to his resume
     
  8. exittored

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    Stevenson admitted that Ali would have beaten him pretty easily.
     
  9. Claus Holmen

    Claus Holmen Active Member Full Member

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    Stevenson was an amateur. He always primed at the Olympics. Forgotten is the fact that he could look ordinary at home and at the Pan American games. Cuban fighters used medicaments such as painkillers and amphetemins. It may help a fighter during 9 minutes of action.
     
  10. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope......Stevenson is packing glass. Look it up:deal
     
  11. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    I'm as guilty as anyone of making that claim, and of course in absolute terms it is inaccurate, but Loma and Rigo could have had another 8 or 10 years in the amateur sport, and left it arguably before their primes.

    In terms of career totals, of course, Rigo and Loma did not equal the amateur achievements of Stevenson, Savon or Papp, but both have better win / loss ratios than Stevenson and could potentially have gone on to equal or surpass his record (though Stevenson himself could potentially have won 2 more Olympic golds had it not been for Cuban boycotts in '84 and '88).

    All 3 won their first Olympic gold at age 20 (Rigo won his on his 20th Birthday - Sept 30, 2000 - not a bad B'day present) and Stevenson went on to retire at 36 - all 3 could potentially have competed in 5 Olympics (though at 36 Loma and Rigo may have started to lose their edge more than HW Stevenson).

    It is perhaps unfair, but achievements earlier in amateur careers are often more highly regarded than later ones - the ever present criticism from the US was that their amateur 'kids' were fighting grown men who had many years of experience at the top level - in effect it wasn't a level playing field. An amateur who is the best in the world at age 20 is only likely to improve relative to his competition.

    The other questionmark over Stevenson was whether or not he was even the best fighter of his time - his 2 unavenged losses to Vysotsky will always remain as a blot on his record.
     
  12. Ripper11

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    How long was Vysotsky's career?
     
  13. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    He was the USSR heavyweight champion in 1978. His total record stands at 161-24. He stopped Stevenson in 1976 (also defeated him on points in 1973) and was supposed to be at the Olympics the same year, but didn't participate due to injury. He retired in 1980.
     
  14. garfios

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    visolky has his number, after the second fight the Cuban goverment sent the second ranked HW in Cuba, Angel Milian, to every tournament that visolky was in, if you think that Milian kick his a$$ every time, you guessed right... Yes Stevenson was as fast as ali and a great technician, he also hit harder than him, with both hands and was very tall by that HW generation.
     
  15. garfios

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    WE know about vysotsky because his two win against Stevenson, but they don't mention the trashing he was given by Milian, Stevenson had problems with shorter fighters he got better