The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

floyd defended his 130 title 8 times before moving up. many has 6 title defenses for his whole career!!! pac never could dominate a dvision like floyd has who is currently on his way with his next four fights to end up with 7 title defenses at 147 and 3 title defenses at 154 your man pac cant do that because hes not as good.

 

Well, its either all of them or none of them I think. I don't see the latter being a realistic option.

 

Limited "punch output" probably the best case for how he is able to look fresh at the end...conservation of energy.

 

floyd is on estrogen

 

I have to disagree. PED use is extremely high in most professional sports and A PED free Mayweather would never be able to maintain his zero against other drugs cheats he has faced in the ring. The gains from HGH, EPO and hormone use are stupendous just do a little research on how the performances of average athletes have been massively improved by PED use. For Maywether to be competitive against another world class boxer on PEDS he would have to be on them self.

Thats why I also suspect Khan of also being on PEDS for the Peterson fight. Peterson confessed to be using them for that fight but yet Khan seem to equally as strong.

I don't believe that there is as a genetic freak who can be stronger or faster than a world class athlete using PEDS.


Lets be honest, PED TESTING IN BOXING IS A JOKE and it is very easy not to get caught.

 

I do think genetic freaks exist. Like welterweight Hearns, for example - speed, power, reach, size. Floyd's superiority is in reflexes and craft: he never tried to directly overpower his opponents but uses their aggression against them.

I think a smart man can defeat a ped user in a skill sport with soooo many intangibles, but maybe not in something like a raw race.

 

He's training at 1 am while his opponents are asleep.

Floyd is deceptively strong..not a big puncher but very strong physically.
You just can't grab him and take a break at your leisure.:deal

His opponents are caught off guard by this.

Then there is the BODY JAB.

The Mayweather jab to the Solar-plexis is the best punch in boxing...you know it's coming...but you can't stop it.

He put Canelo on the ropes at will...he threw Shane Mosely around like a rag doll....because he took their CORE.

Another thing.

He's the master of the FALSE TARGET.

Floyd keeps his head so far off center he has you reaching and out of position without even realizing it..Getting countered in an awkward position is demoralizing and scary.

For those reasons you can't throw lots of punches at him..

 

Hopkins beats guys who are faster, stronger, and younger because he doesn't let them use those traits, even if he has to be dirty. Mayweather shuts down offense very effectively. You get set to throw and he hits you hard and precisely enough to keep you from throwing. It is not a direct competition of Ped traits the way Floyd does it. (PAC is dangerous because he generates power without planting his feet - one of the few fighters who does not need to be set to generate force so he can do it on the move at weird angles)

 

It's a shame that people forget the great Floyd Mayweather was champion in 5 divisions, and was lineal in 4 divisions. He's probably the goat at 130. Floyd ain't a great? Disrespectful.

 

Not true

It takes more energy slipping and moving than throwing 3 to take one.

Defense is grueling and far more taxing..that's what few guys master it...

 

I don't think Floyd is anywhere near the best ever, but everybody is entitled to their opinion, thats what these boards are for

 

The claims seem to be supported by more than one person, and the FACT that D Hale was being flown around the globe on Mayweathers dime, then suddenly the honeymoon ended and May retired has me thinking there is more to that relationship.

D Hale's DRs are able to give an exact amount and do intermittent testing to maintain a certain level.......6-1 is the level that USADA detects in their primitive tests......D Hales ppl can keep a persons level right at 5.9-1 if they wanted.....

To give some perspective......the average for a 40 y/o who hasnt had concussions or abused alcohol is about 1-1........boxers are constantly getting concussions and not even recognizing them since theyre so used to being buzzed by shots.......

My guess is Floyd is right around 5-1....especially since D Hale is being flown around the globe on 500K vacations on Floyds dime once again.deal:deal

 

That's true for most because they are bad at it. When they are slipping and moving with the conscious realization or fear because they know they can be punched, they are then stressed while they are moving. The body does not like to be moved while tensed, and so to do so it would take more energy to do it.

Floyd moves/defenses naturally and as minimally as possible. Notice the closer his opponent the less he likes to move, (rolls, pivots) because he knows at that distance he cannot help his body being stressed, so chooses to move minimally. Moving minimally also lets you keep your position better to counter/recognize your opportunities. Floyd's defensive genius lies in his energy conservation, not that he has endless energy.

 

There's always the chance a top athlete isn't, but it's more than likely (by a sizable margin) he's on something. That's just the nature of top level sport, the cost of doing business for most. if a sport like sprinting, where the other guys using and getting an advantage don't result in you getting years taken off your life and losing once doesn't harm your career, why on earth wouldn't a boxer?

The fact that Floyd can be as sharp as he is, work as hard as he does, and is so obsessed with maintaining his 0 are all red flags. He doesnt need bulk, but recovery aids would make a lot of sense for him.

 

Read Thomas Hauser's article on Mayweather and peds. He is a respected journalist andvhis integrity is beyond reproach. Most top level guys are on something.