Joe Calzaghe retired 46-0 (32) in 2008. Get over it. Fans & haters; quit trolling!

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  1. Colt Seevers

    Colt Seevers Member Full Member

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    The most impressive thing about him is he had Mallignaggi brittle hand power and still had the career he had
     
  2. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Joes 2 main strengths as a fighter were the 2 departments in the fight game that seperate the good from the great :

    1) Adaptability - he could box, he could brawl, he could work a fighter out like kessler, change approach and find a way to win. You see fighters like Roy Jones and there is no adaptability there beyond PED enhanced athleticism, you know that if plan A don't work for Roy then theres no plan B. Calzaghe had a plan B, he had adaptability to adjust to the fighter he fought.

    2) Thrive in adversity - A fighter shows his true greatness when faced with adversity, great fighters like sugar ray leonard and ali thrived when it was all on the line, produced their best when staring defeat in the eye and some fighters fold like a lawn chair when faced with adversity like Roy Jones, some fighters try and feign injury like Hopkins or Broner when faced with adversity. Calzaghe thrived in adversity, when he stared defeat in the eye he came roaring back, he produced when it was all on the line, you can't teach that, that warrior instinct is either in you or it isn't.
     
  3. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    That is true, Steward understood how good Calzaghe was.
     
  4. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I keep hearing about Calzaghe's adaptability and adjustments.

    Who did he ever even have to adjust to? A fighter like Kessler has a relatively straightforward style. Hopkins is old and can be punished by a high workrate.

    Ad******g mid-fight is something all fighters do, and I've never seen Calzaghe do it in a dramatic fashion. When you face such a low, domestic level of opposition, how can you be praised for "adapting" to a tomato can?
     
  5. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    :rofl

    Calzaghe is a little over rated. Definitely a good boxer. Stuck between above average and top level though in my opinion. Avoided the tougher challenges in his career. Cherry picked at the end taking fights he thought would be easy, one went horrible, the other went great.
     
  6. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't watch his fights then. Stop opening youtube, typing in joe calzaghe, clicking on his fights and then you won't have to sit there watching a fighter who doesn't impress you slyk, then you won't feel the need to start threads on him. it really is that simple.
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    this is a true point, sure he was intelligent enough to know when to cherry pick, but he never changed tactics in the ring other than to up his workrate

    similarly the thriving in adversity - he only was in adversity thrice, old man 40something hops, losing early on to 1 handed Kessler and arguably beaten by reid. if facing a 40something is adversity, your standards are not good.
     
  8. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    I've literally never been impressed by calzaghe. in fact, i've always wondered how he was able to stay undefeated with those pitty pat punches in bunches. that being said, to remain undefeated through fourty something fights means you were doing something right. I guess the closest i've ever been to impressed by him occurred when he demolished jeff lacy, but that was more due to lacy's hype train coming to a screeching halt than to calzaghe's performance, although noteworthy.
     
  9. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Adversity vs bums he faced:think he was a good fighter but not even close to what his deluded fans think, he isnt even best British fighter of all time, thats Lennox EASY.
    Jones wins over Hopkins and Toney> anything Joe did
    Jones wining HW title alone (one of 3or4 in history to be MW and HW title holder)> anything Joe did
    While Joe milked WBO title Roy was p4p #1, but you know all this thats why you post **** about Roy, lol even on BRITISH documentary they call Roy the best fighter in the world and dont even mention Joe as threat to him!:lol:
     
  10. The Akbar One

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    Hopkins can be outworked in the judges eyes. I have yet to seem him punished, even at his advanced age. Hopkins gassed bad half way through the Calzaghe fight. Calzaghe fans call it Calzaghe ad******g.
     
  11. HerolGee

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    mah'haps they define beating up a gassed out old man who previously was hitting you at will, as adapting.

    personally I don't see beating up old men as adapting.
     
  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    no, the klitchkos are not klittards. I m talking specifically about klittards.


    there is a difference!
     
  13. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Wassup brah, did Calzaghe fuk up your idol in his own backyard or did he fuk your momma . . . . . . . . up the shitpipe :lol::lol::lol::lol::rofl:deal
     
  14. the commentator

    the commentator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's only fitting that the closest boxer in history that could be compared with Calzaghe was nicknamed "Slapsie" Maxie...:-(
     
  15. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    All roads always lead to Joe Calzaghe, every major victory in boxing leads back to Joe, he is top of the ESB food chain (much like the Team Elite Corporation), he is 46 and 0 - there was never a blueprint to beat the man and there never will be. Silly billy haterz are always gonna hate.

    Its clear that the majority of haterz on esb are blinkered fanboys of Jones, Hopkins, and Toney, gullable fans who grew up believing the delusional brainwashing that HBO and Ring magazine forced down their throats on how great their idol is, they clearly lost touch on reality and when Calzaghe despatched their idols in their own backyard, they cling to every excuse in the book, crying like little bitches with sand in their vagina's.

    When the likes of Jones and Toney were scared to fight off a level playing field, juiced to the gills, Calzaghe was busy training harder as a clean athlete

    When Hopkins and Jones were cleaning out the terribly weak 160 and 175 divisions infront of gullable, blinkered HBO audiences, Calzaghe was cleaning out a far superior 168 division.

    When the likes of Jones, Hopkins, and Toney were busy being clowned by mediocre fighters like Tiberi, sanderline Williams, Thadzi, Mercado, Jermain Taylor, Tarver, and Glen Johnson etc, Calzaghe was busy showing remarkable consistency

    When the likes of Jones, Hopkins, and Toney were showing zero adaptability against the likes of Tarver, Taylor, and Tiberi etc, Calzaghe was showing supreme adaptability against the likes of Robin Reid and Kessler

    When the likes of Jones, Hopkins, and Toney were folding like lawn chairs when faced with adversity, Calzaghe was getting up at the count of 2 and immediately facing fire with fire, no holding, just rising to the occasion in the heat of the battle when it mattered most.

    When the likes of Jones, Hopkins, and Foney were busy trash talking and insulting opponents with shear arrogance and racism, Calzaghe remained down to earth, true to his roots and showed respect for all opponents.

    When the likes of Hopkins were stinking the arena's out, feigning injuries and trying to rob fight fans of their hard earned money by getting bouts called off mid-fight, Calzaghe was busy trying to put a show on for the fans, wanting to have a tare up with every opponent.

    When Jones, Hopkins, and Toney were fighting in their backyard, Calzaghe was wanting to fight Hopkins in 2002 on foreign soil only for the cowardly Hopkins to be turning down a record payday.

    When the dust was settled at 175 and Hopkins was the king of the division, Calzaghe moved up weight, and despite fighting on foreign soil, with corrupt judges, and the corrupt Joe Cortez refereeing, Calzaghe simultaneously became the main man at 168 and 175 by literallty butt-f**king racist crybaby Hopkins in his own backyard sandwiched inbetween the most impressive winning streak of Hopkins entire career.

    When Jones was granted the opportunity to fight the new king at 175, many experts throughout the world of boxing predicted that Jones would beat Calzaghe due to Joes fragile hands not having sufficient power to further shatter Roys glass jaw. What we got instead was a boxing exhibition from Calzaghe, clearly demonstrating a far superior skillset.

    When Jones and Toney continue boxing to this day, mumbling in their speech and not having a pot to **** in, Calzaghe is happily retired, a wealthy man with all his faculties in tact.

    Lets be honest, there is so much to hate, the bitterness, the envy, the jealousy of fanboys trying to throw stones at their idol's master because no one was ever good enough to do their talking in the ring with Joe Calzaghe.

    Delusional haterz are gonna hate but the facts will never ever change. Team Elite will continue to educate blinkered fanboys, all roads will always lead to Joe Calzaghe.