It ain't over for Victor, nowhere near.

And when he does, you can bring this thread up again.

As of now, he's a victim of three straight knockout losses.

 

Is Ortiz your brother in law or something.:rofl

Fu.ck outta' here with that shi.t.

 

Must be a troll, that or this guy has serious mental issues. Ironically like Mr Ortrees himself. maybe you should both go to some program for "making trees tougher".

 

It's not there dude...let it go...release his tiny balls.

 

let's prop up Ortiz cause he's one of Mayweathers best win.

 

In all honesty, the kid has some talent. He has power, and he puts punches together well. His problem is that he crumbles under pressure. That, combined with a questionable chin. (after a surgery like that, you're not they same.) I think that he is just going to have a seriously hard time getting back to the elite level. He has the talent, he just lacks the heart and resilience he once had.

 

it's over for you MVC!. you've been demoted to a lower primate.

 

Cant wait to here Victor Ortiz' induction speech into the BHOF! :-((

 

you saying he has huge talent is clearly overrating him. No, dickrider, he doesnt.

 

thats the biggest problem of you guys argument. he cant get back to a place he never was. Victor never was and never will be ELITE. Both of you scrubs have lost your minds.