The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

nailed it.

 

translates to: thank god, my fans are dumb.

 

Again, I'll ask you to take it from Top Rank's perspective in '09. Why take 40 mill and a loss, when you can make 2-3 times that much by simply milking his fame for a few years against guys with name recognition, but no chance whatsoever?

 

FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR
''I OFFERED Manny Pacquiao $40 MILLION''

but...... I thought you don't want to fight Manny Pacquiao since he was still with Bob Arum?


FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR
''Yes, Pacquiao you're next!''

a week after that.....

FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR
''I didn't say that, don't put words in my mouth''

 

He didn't call out Kostya Tsyzu or Cory Spinks.

Nobody wanted him pre-DLH? Really? He still was a big name and was making 7-8 mill a fight around the 2005-2007 run.

There was a guy named Margarito that was begging for him.

Who was paid 750K to step aside.:yep

 

Canelo: Undefeated in 43 fights and coming off a big win over Trout to capture the lineal 154lb title
Guerrero: Defeated once in 30 fights and coming off a big upset win over Berto
Cotto: at 154 coming off a win over Margarito
Ortiz: coming off of handing Berto his first loss in 30 pro fights
Mosley: coming off the brutal destruction of the boogeyman Margarito
Marquez: Pacquiao's kryptonite who Floyd took on as a tuneup fight fresh out of retirement and completely outclassed
Hatton: 43-0 at the time coming off of a 4th round KO of Castillo
DLH: at 154 with DLH dictating all the terms (gloves, ring, weight, etc)

Yeah, I'm noticing a pattern here...

 

If it's an easy fight then he'd take that massive payday and make it happen with Arum and all. That fight when it was hot from 2009-2011 would have generated Mayweather almost 100 mil, if it was easy he'd have made it happen.

There wasn't talk of Arum back then, it was all differing forms of blood test and PED slander. It becomes a new set of excuses for whatever suits the moment.

 

He called out Zoo live on HBO. The video is posted in this thread.

 

He name dropped him and followed up with Gatti, who's levels below. Went for the easy prey as usual with Gatti.

 

It just the pac fans getting butthurt because they know Bradley has a chance of handing pac another loss and they want floyd to lose to.

I find it hilarious people saying he should fight Porter and Thurman yet cry about him fighting more experienced fighters like Khan and Maidana atsch

I would say this, only a true champ like floyd could fight a guy like maiden a world champion in his weightclass coming off a number of impressive wins and get criticised for it. I'm use to it now, the hate is quite clear.

Floyd V TBA shits on pac's ppv sales against Bradley. Deal with it pac fans :deal

 

Yeah, "as usual" like when he took on the undefeated man who beat Zoo, or when he went to 154 to fight DLH, or when he did what most of his haters said he would "never" do when he fought Shane after he destroyed Margarito and took on the undefeated Canelo, or when he completely sonned the guy who gave Pacquiao all he could handle for three fights before putting him to sleep for four minutes... Fresh off a two year layoff. He's always going after the "easy" prey. :yep

 

Relative to the time Hatton was far easier prey than Cotto, Margarito or others at Welterweight, like a fresher Shane Mosely for example. That's undeniable.

I've never said he doesn't have good wins. Hatton is a fine win. But he taken at Welterweight after having already arguably lost at Welterweight to Collazo and was not perceived as a top Welterweight, but the man at LWW. Which that's fine, that's a good win... but he followed it up by retiring when Welterweight was white hot in 2008.

Yeah, he took Shane. Year and a half of inactivity and made sure he wasn't juiced like he was for Margarito.

DLH is a decent win at that time.

He's got good wins over Corrales and Castillo and some other guys.

Lower weights he did what he should have done, point is after 2007, his vacation, he's been an absolute cherry picker taking useless fights and the easy prey while ducking his main era rival, the other top tier elite in his range.

The JMM thing was a disgrace. JMM was pudgy, jumping up 9 pounds and Floyd didn't even make weight.

Relative to where they were when he fought them, the names look less and less.

Why take Canelo down 2 pounds? Why didn't Canelo even put up an effort? Why does it always have to be someone stylistically suitable?

All of that effects legacy.

 

He didn't struggle with Cotto.

 

He ducked the fight yet months earlier it was pacquiao running.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1iUs76wUzM

 

Margarito was a fighter with no fan base and even Arum said as much, and a fight between Mayweather-Margarito was not a public demanding fight.

And Mayweather pre-DLH? Let's see, he made just $3 million plus for his inaugural PPV fight against Arturo Gatti, minus the PPV upside that he was suppose to get but didn't because his promoter at the time Top Ranks own Bob Arum kept that for himself (remind you of someone that Bob's currently doing that to right now)and it's something that Floyd still has a pending suit against Arum about, that and his minus upside of the PPV against Zab Judah which Arum also promoted alongside Don King.

And before Mayweather-Gatti he was averaging as much as 2.5 million a fight, last but not least check out Floyd's post fight interview following his tko victory over Jesus Chavez, his last fight at 130 before moving up, and you'll clearly see that one of the three opponents he called out was Kostya Tsyzu.

The $750,000 by the way was Floyd's buyout deal from his contract from Bob Arum, not step aside money from a Margarito fight something that once again was not a highly public demanding fight. The $750,000 buyout deal by Floyd from Arum was constructed by Floyd's manager Al Haymon as part of his second contractual deal with Top Rank at the time and was only implemented by Floyd after Arum refused to pay him more than 7-8 million dollars for a fight with Cotto right around the same time when Floyd was offered the same amount, $8-million, against easier target and Linear Welterweight Champion Carlos Baldimior.