What are the biggest ducks of boxing history?

Mayweather not wanting to fight Pac because of Arum is the most pathetic excuse you could ever imagine from a fighter.

 

Yeah but the fact is he said no to a drug test and let it get in the way of a huge fight.

He should be critcised for doing so.

And so what if he was accused - take the test, prove Mayweather wrong. If you were clean why would you not nip the issue in the bud? he should never have been an issue. It's not normal to negotiate about drug testing let alone let it stop the fight happening if you're clean.

He was either:

• On PEDs and so turned down the testing.
• Or he let pride/ego (how dare Floyd ask for extra testing etc etc) get in the way of a huge fight.

Either way he deserves to be blamed.

 

floyd over pac, no doubt

 

No he doesn't Floyd is the one that came up with these ridiculous demands ..Manny has never tested positive for anything ,he declined ODST ..NOT testing all together !

Dam right how dare FLoyd who the **** is he ? It's his fault no one else who stepped in the ring had as many concerns as Floyd yet they had no issues fighting him,Marquez did it 4 times ,4 ! Yet Floyd can't fight him once ..Floyd is to blame not Manny !

If it's not the drug testing it's the promoter I mean really when will his fans stop making excuses for him ?

 

Pacquiao walking out on 100mill because of a drug test.
Bowe vs Lewis

 

I swear to god that if Floyd went on a rampage and shot 50 people, there'd be people on here claiming that the victims were at fault for getting in the way of the bullets.

F**king sickening!


1. Before official negotiations took place, Floyd gave interviews through the media. He DID NOT have any issue with testing. He never mentioned it once. He never mentioned anything about cleaning up the sport. He could have said "Whoever I fight next, I require them to submit to OSDT." But he DIDN'T! The only issue he had was the potential split. He only demanded testing during the official negotiations, after his Daddy had made unsubstantiated claims.

2. Manny DID NOT refuse to be tested, even though he'd have been well within his rights to tell Floyd to get f**ked! He refused to be tested up to the day of the fight. Floyd wouldn't agree to Manny's cut off, even though there was no evidence whatsoever of Manny being dirty.

3. Manny not backing down to Floyd, did not mean that he walked away from the fight. How stupid are some of you? Spin things around, and you can say that Manny walked away because Floyd would not agree to his cut off request. I didn't agree with Manny's weight penalty, but that was his ego trying to gain a position of power during negotiations.

4. After Manny refused to back down and Floyd wouldn't budge, talks broke down. However, Manny changed his stance and agreed to Floyd's demands, even though originally he was adamant that he wouldn't do 14 days. But Floyd wouldn't accept. Now if one fighter with a huge ego (Manny) could go back on his word to try and make the fight, then why couldn't the other fighter with a giant ego (Floyd) also change his stance? I'm sick of hearing car sales analogies, and people saying that Floyd couldn't have changed his mind. Yes he f**king could have! The only person stopping Floyd from changing his mind was Floyd himself. Stop excusing him! If Manny was big enough to back down, Floyd could have done the same, instead of taking a vacation.

5. Offering someone $40m (even if they'd never made anything near to that) with no PPV percentage, is not the actions of someone who's trying to make a fight! It's f**king sickening that people claim Manny not accepting the offer stopped the fight from happening. The offer was a joke, and it wasn't even considered for a split second. You simply cannot negotiate with a guy who tries to pull something like that. Again, it doesn't matter if Manny hadn't made anywhere near that amount. Experts predicted that the fight could gross anywhere between $200-300m. A guy who has a big ego, who's been accused of being dirty without any PROOF, wasn't going to take $40m, to watch Floyd make over $100m, in what would have been the biggest grossing fight of all time! Yet amazingly, there's morons out there that actually saw this joke as Floyd trying to make the fight. Wake up FFS!

6. Someone answer me this question. Why was Floyd on a mission to clean up the sport of boxing, only AFTER THIRTEEN years as a pro??

7. Another question. Why did no other fighter have an issue fighting Manny, when Floyd wouldn't fight without OSDT??

8. Even when in 2012, Manny agreed to every stipulation, it still didn't satisfy Floyd.

9. The Mayweather's have never put forward any form of evidence of Manny being dirty, and they had to publicly apologise and pay a fine after they'd been to court.


Now after reading all of the above, you don't need to hire Columbo to see that Floyd Mayweather (The greatest ever, no blueprint, better than SRL and SRR, because they lost and he hasn't) NEVER wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao.

I don't care whether anyone believes me or not, but I am not a fan (*******) of Manny Pac.

But I'm an intelligent guy, with eyes and ears, and I can see and hear Floyd in interviews, and study his mannerisms and look at how he carries himself. I can see and hear the contradictions, the change of tone, the awkwardness and him going into defence mode.


It's all there. And for the people that say they can't see it, I (genuinely) PITY YOU!


Open your eyes, and wake the f**k up!


Floyd stopped this fight from taking place, because he never wanted it.

 

You haven't answered any of the points.

Oh and proper drug testing is in no way a ridiculous demand. Saying no to proper drug testing is a ridiculous stance to defend.

 

PAC ducking a Floyd fight in May because a cut won't be healed in time BUT that same cut was healed in time to fight Marquez.

PAC we can't fight in May, but we can fight in June when your locked up

We need to build a stadium, never mind the fact that most super fights recently have happened in preexsisting arenas.

If that's not ducking a particular person, then there is no such thing as ducking.

 

Rios never tested positive either:bart

Holyfield never walked away

He says ok now but if he did 5 years ago they would have fought already . . . everything else was agreed too

 

Manny never said no to drug testing that's what I find hysterical ! It was the extra drug testing that was the issue ..What was need for it ? Because Daddy whispered in his ear ..Come on now ..


It was the first of its kind and unprecedented ! He also had no proof and no grounds to ask for additional testing.

 

Mayweather - Pacquiao
Both have ducked each other for year.

Bowe - Lennox
Bowe was SCARED. Plain and simple.

Roy Jones ducked and Benn/Eubank/Dariusz.

Hearns ducked McCallum.

 

This is a load of **** man. why does it matter why Floyd asked for the extra testing . . . Manny should have just manned up and took the test. other fighters have done a lot more for a lot less. talking about his f'n pride is a cop out . . . where is his pride now?

 

F**king bull****!

You've got zero perspective!

If he was clean (and there's never been any evidence to suggest otherwise) why should he have jumped through all of Floyd's hoops after he'd had his name tarnished?

It's easy for you to ask why didn't he take the test to nip it in the bud, but why the f**k should he have??

Why don't you hold Floyd responsible for demanding the tests in the first place?

Nobody else had an issue fighting Manny.

Floyd turned pro in 96, and never wanted an opponent to be tested in 96, 97, 98, 99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008.

I guess after 13 years as a pro, he was in the gym one day, and a beacon of light hit him, and he thought to himself 'I want to clean up the sport of boxing!'

Also, Floyd never mentioned anything regarding OSDT on future opponents, when he spoke to the media regarding a potential fight with Manny.

Why do people keep saying that Manny refused the test?

No he didn't!!

He refused to be tested all the way up to the fight. He wanted a cut off.

Why couldn't Floyd have met him half way?

Manny agreed to the OSDT, so Floyd could have granted the cut off days.

But no!

It's Floyd's way, and whoever doesn't fully comply gets the blame for the fight not happening.

What a joke!


This is a question to all of Floyd's fans out there.

What if Manny and Freddy had've accused Floyd of being dirty and demanded that Floyd be tested in the same manner?

You've got to be out of your damn mind if you think Floyd and his giant ego would have agreed to everything without any fuss.

 

Did Rios ever test positive for a performance enhancer ?


And please Floyd is the one that started with all the accusations why else did he have yo settle with Manny ..You conveniently skip that ..Floyd has been to blame from the gate ..First it was the testing ,now it's the promoters what's next ? Manny's love of music ...When will it end ?

 

No it's not a load of **** Jasper. Not at all.

Why should Manny have manned up and took the test?!

1. Floyd never had an issue with testing before his Dad made his comments. Go back and have a look.

2. There's never been any proof. He could have met Manny half way. Manny agreed to the tests, Floyd could have given him his cut off.

3. Neither would back down, and they went their separate ways. But Manny changed his stance, and backed down to Floyd. Now Floyd could have done the same, but took a vacation.


It astounds me that Floyd made all of the those demands, and when Manny didn't comply, it's HIM who gets the blame for the fight not happening.

Has it ever occurred to you, that if Floyd hadn't have tarnished Manny's name and made those demands, that we could have seen the fight?

Is it not strange, that nobody else had an issue fighting Manny?


It's a f**king joke that you don't hold Floyd responsible in anyway.


It's all there, right in front of you.