The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Miles5149

    Miles5149 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    U r virgin
     
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  3. Vanboxingfan

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    You're on drugs if you think GGG's on Hagler's level. And the best since Hagler is Hopkins not GGG. GGG's a young belt holder. But a dangerous fight nevertheless. Floyd's a natural 140 fighter, so your saying his limit is 154. That's 15lbs 25lbs if you think he's truly a 130lber.

    That's fine. Duran was a natural 135 his limit seemed to be 160, started off at 117.

    Roy's first fight was at 154, he eventually fought for the heavyweight belt against Ruiz. He

    Toney was a middleweight 160 who eventually fought at heavyweight

    SRR was a welter 147 who fought for the light heavyweight title at 175.

    Armstrong held the featherweight, lightweight and welterweight titles all at the same time.

    So what's Floyd? an ATG top30-50, which is where he is now, or could he be a top 20 fighter? And how are you going to find out? by him beating jr welterweights for the rest of his career? I don't think so.
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

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    Which is why I have him higher than top 50 but 7 fights later he's not going from 48th to anything below 30. And Duran's 6th on that list and look at the reasons why. All I'm asking for is for Floyd to push himself something along the same lines, and the blow back to that seems ridiculous.

    As far as lists go, I think the one in classic is a much better list, than this one.
     
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  6. Miles5149

    Miles5149 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1,800 posts in three months all about Mayweather. How is it being a 16 year old virgin with no life?
     
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    i post more about how dumb the *****s are.

    also, i dont give pedjr free publicity now, you do.:good
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

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    I really couldn't care less if he keeps his "0" or not. I just want to see him push himself to his absolute full potential. And yes, that might or might not mean losing his 0 because to push himself to the limit he's going to have at least risk losing it. Whether he actually looses it or not, is another matter. Fighting jr welterweights isn't going to do anything for his legacy, but admittedly it'll help his bank account.
     
  9. Miles5149

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    I don't know what you're talking about. But anyway, why avoid the question? How does it feel to be a 16 year old with no social life, that's probably a virgin? I wouldn't know, so I'm asking you.
     
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    That's your opinion. I think Garcia would be a nice win. And you say that like it's all he does. He did just beat arguably the #1 Junior Middleweight in the world easily. A guy many Mayweather haters said he'd never fight.
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

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    Yes, that was a nice win. Garcia's not a bad fight, but it's also a fight he should win.
     
  12. Miles5149

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    Can you really fault the guy for being great and the favorite? People ***** and moan about him not fighting Margarito. That was a fight he should of won too. I'm far from a ***** but I just don't get the hate and double standards this guy gets. It's ridiculous.
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

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    Well I've voiced my opinion on this topic and I don't have much more to add, other than to copy a post from another poster from the classic section on whether or not Floyd could have done what Armstrong did.

    "No way on earth he would dominate a far stronger era of fighters. Floyd is an excellent fighter but he is made to look better by the calibre of opponents he has faced. He managed to duck Pacquiao when he would have presented a genuine challenge and by doing so will leave a tarnished legacy without a defining fight to emphasise his greatness. When you look at the truly great fighters they actively sought the best opposition with a view to leaving a legacy that was more than just the money involved. Protecting the zero on their record was a secondary consideration. "

    His comments pretty well sum up my thoughts on Floyd and his career. Not that I'm really dumping on Floyd's comp because it's not all that bad, but it could have and should have included a prime Pac and considering where he is now, he should at least be focusing on beating Jr middleweights, not jr welterweights.
     
  14. Miles5149

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    And Pac didn't duck him right? C'mon. All he had to do was take a blood test and we coulda saw the fight in the 2009. There's no way a blood test is a big enough hurdle to stop a fight from getting made. How does he get a pass for that? If you put the blame all on Mayweather, you must have some kinda bias against him. Because to me, if I'm Pacquiao, no matter how much I'm offended by it, no matter how much pride I got, if I really wanted the fight, I'm not walking away from it over a blood test.
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

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    I'm not dumping this totally on Floyd, it takes two to make a fight or in this case not make a fight. But these guys are fighters, they are NOT a substitute for the boxing commissions of a particular state.

    If they want the rules to change, they should lobby for changes, but since when has taking blood tests over and above those required by the boxing commissions ever been an issue?

    Honestly, my personal opinion is this has hurt both their legacies. But I also think Floyd has surpassed Pac in the ATG rankings and he would be far ahead of him had he fought and beat him in '09.

    I guess my thinking on this is if you win the fight, who cares whether the opponent was clean or not?

    It only matters if you lose the fight.

    You could have had the winner take an Olympic style test 5 minutes after the fight, if that was a major concern.
     
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