The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

i misread your post and thought u were referring to srl,
one reason i assumed it was srl was because floyd is such a hype job coward cherry picker i would never think you would have to go all way back to before any of our times to find someone sufficient enough to compare floyd to.

now that means something, you are admitting to all of us how highly you rate floyd and how great you think he is

so you going to finally come out of the closet and tell us all how much you love him as a fighter. it really ok, he is by far the best of out lifetime and u just started admitting it. feels good right, truth will set you free

good for you. ggg will be your next secret love within a couple years

 

I'm pretty sure nobody in the history of boxing managed to fight everybody as far as resume the only true defining fights that could possibly raise Mayweather's profile is Pac an Kystzu by the time Mayweather got to JWW Kystzu was close to the way out and Pacquiao whether you agree or not turned the fight down twice.

As a Mayweather fan I hope he tries for a MW Title in one of his two fights next year but to think that is a make or break for his legacy is crazy correct me if I'm wrong but SRL moved up 5* divisions with the last being a bs cw to win the SMW/LHW belt DLH moved up 5/6 Hearns moved up about 5 RJJr 5 so to me if Mayweather wins the Lineal MW title regardless if its Martinez, GGG, Cotto/Alvarez II it would put him ahead of the other fighters who managed to win 4/5+ division titles look at who guys were fighting to win there 5, 6 & in Pac's case 7 & 8 division title none of them beat the top champ in that weight to make claim to be a legit champ so while I hope Mayweather does move up for a final superfight I don't think its a must have if he does though he will arguably be a Top 10/5 ATG

On a side note how many threads do you have to combine for this to reach 1600+ pages smh

 

Never said I didn't like Mayweather, I just said he doesn't push himself enough to know how good he really might be.

 

The guy fought more names than actual challenges !

Baldimor was the lineal welterweight champ but was not the best welter weight that fight didn't elevate his legacy

Beating a shot Molsey didn't elevate his legacy
Beating Gatti didn't elevate his legacy

Beating Marquez after he out weighed him didn't elevate his legacy

See the pattern !


Just because these guys had belts , that didn't make them great when he fought them !

Look at the diffrence when Stevenson KO Ed Dawson and compare that to MW's win over Baldimor ! Please tell me what fight was regarded with more significance ? Dawson was just beat by Ward and Baldi had just beat Judah

People would have rather had MW fight Margarito because it posed more of a challenge ! Dawson was actually considered the best light heavy weight Baldimor wasn't even the best welter !

It's about who you beat not the belt you actually pick up ..Your boy has coasted his way to a padded record ever since he's moved up from light weight !

 

Not to interject but you make it seem like Margo is this great win an challenge its more evidence to suggest Baldomir is better than Margarito such as Baldomir fighting better fighters consistently over his career over a higher span of weight classes Baldomir became the legit WW Champ Margo has never really been more than a paper titlist I mean for all this talk about Baldomir he moved up to JMW and hanged tough with Vernon Forrest then kept moving up while Margorito got his ass kicked by Daniel Santos and ran back down to Welter. Seriously take the best fighters Margarito fought and they all lose or did lose to the best fighters Baldomir fought that should be a clear sign of who was and still is better

 

first off

Judan was the best WW and he took that fight even after losing his title to Baldmoir because people said "he's probably the fastest fighter Mayweather has ever faced, southpaw in his prime, still should take the fight" SO HE DID!! After that he wanted to be THE champ so he fought Baldo

beating Mosley was huge. wether u think he was shot or not, History will say he destroyed the WW King in Margarito his fight before that. Plus everybody (probably you too for sure) said he was scared and would never fight Mosley because he fought a light weight in his last fight. Mayweather fighting him (one of the best fighters of his ERA) and taking a massive punch and still pushing foward told alot to fans about Mayweather.

beating Gatti didnt but that was a big warrior in our Era, plus he took that fight because he wanted a title and wanted THE champ in Hatton or Cotto. hatton got scared and ran, Arum said your not ounding my product in Cotto

beating Marquez did a something for his legacy. U can say he was Light champ but i rememeber that he was p4p in the TOP #3!! People have moved up from light weight to WW so Marquez took a shot. plus beating him 12-0 was huge, nobody has ever done that to him to this day

you saying he padded his record his BS. if u wanted to go to the next best fighter of this Era in Pacquiao, u tell me who padded more?? If u saying Mayweather padded his record then what does that make Pacquiao.

Mayweather fought DLH at 154 with all the disadvangtes. Pac fought him at 147 where he didnt fight for 10 years before that. pac had a chance to fight Mosley but wanted to come down to like 143 and Mosley said "I cant make that" mayweather fights the real champ in Mosley while Pac fought Clottey atschatsch

So who padded a record sir:huh:huh

 

Margo was the most dangerous welter in the division at the time there was a demand for that fight who the hell wanted of see Floyd vs Baldimor ? I think your overrating this win way too much based on the belts he held .You ever see fans leave in the middle of a championship fight ?


And Baldimor was getting his ass handed to him by Clotty before he got Dq ed and previously had 9 losses before his loss to Mayweather ! Again who were these better fighters he was facing when lesser fighters were beating him !

You really need to know who Baldimor was ..He was far from a monster !But a perfect opponent for Floyd to get his fans into believing he was worthy !

 

The only people who wanted to see him fight Margo were the fools who believed Bobs BS. Bob knew Floyd wanted a fight with OSCAR (who everybody wanted to see) and Baldy gave him the WW crown and the ticket to the golden boy. What did margo get him . . . 8mill? he made more fighting Baldy. Fighting Margo for 8 mill came with strings, and those strings were attached to bob and Top Rank. History proved Floyd right in fighting Baldy for the WW Lineal Championship and severing his ties with TR.

Margo was a piece of **** who was nothing with or without his special gloves. ****ing COWARD should have pushed for a rematch with SSM the man who whipped his ass rather than the man he beat down with the aid of plaster . . . I could watch SSM whipping that ass everyday!

 

Outside the belt he held how did that win enhance his legacy ? The lineal champ didn't always equate to as the best fighter in the division and Baldi was the best example of that ..Funny what constitutes as foolishness .. Bobs bs really ..

It was the same Bob that Floyd learned all his negotiating tricks from .,Funny he hates the man yet acts just like him ..Just look at the Wright negotiations and tell me Floyd isn't a chip off the old block.

And if people were fools into believing that Margarito was in demand than what does that make the fans that demanded that a fight with Carlos Baldimor :think

You have to be kidding that belt wasn't the only avenue for a fight with Oscar ..Last I checked it was Oscar the obliged Floyd because he was rated the best fighter pound for pound ..That meant more to Oscar than the belt he currently held or what ever belt Floyd picked up that he could defend based on the sanctioning body.

Baldimor was a path as usual of least resistance ! It just so happened he actually had a belt that some people actually cared about .

 

One guy hadn't lost in 8 years worked his way up beat the undisputed champ the other lost every other fight and had recently got his ass kicked twice by daniel santos. Margarito was also getting handled by Clottey until he broke his hand I believe it was. How about the lesser fighters Margarito was losing to when Baldomir was on his unbeaten run. again the best fighters Baldomir fought were better than the best fighters Margarito fought in some cases they did beat the guys Margo was fighting is beating Baldomir an ATG win not at all but Baldomir is higher all time at Welter than Margarito and is a better win

 

They are both pretty average fighters in my books.

 

I can respect that it's just when people act like Margarito is this huge legacy defining monster its annoying lets just be real Margarito is a Ortiz Rios level fighter in other words a bum. My whole thing is how do the guys like the Bradley's get discredit when they fight actual champ and earn there way and the GGG's get touted as gods when most end up never fighting anybody btw I like Golovkin but if he never fights anyone good he's still gon be a bum no matter how exciting he is

 

But Floyd did not sign the contract they sent to Pacquiao camp. Do you think if Pac agreed with the watered down version of osdt the fight will happen ? Is it the testing or Bob Arum the reason the fight is not happening ?

 

Has not been many slicksters during the Floyd era

Zab n Mosley r not slick they r offensive fightets

How would Floyd have done against elite slicksters?

Has the style died out now a days? The only slick,black defensive fighters today r Floyd n Ward, and the Cubanos

 

So who are the great slicksters that Floyd is lucky he didn't fight?