Pac-Bradley, no vada testing!

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  1. tonys333

    tonys333 Active Member Full Member

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    I think *******s were on his side because they like to belive Marquez was on somthing in the fourth fight. I am a Pac fan but that night two great fighters put it on the line an Marquez came out on top. I don't think they can except that so they look for excuses. It is also very strange the way Bradley is ok with no VADA testing now. As long as the randome testing gets done an we have a good fair fight then it doesn't really matter in the end.
     
  2. tonys333

    tonys333 Active Member Full Member

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...193308969--box.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory

    Francisco Aguilar, the chairman of the Nevada Athletic Commission, announced Friday the commission will make boxers Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley undergo a rigorous drug testing regiment prior to the April 12 bout in Las Vegas for the WBO welterweight title.

    Top Rank CEO Bob Arum said he is funding the testing, which will cost $35,000 and will include Carbon Isotope Ratio testing and Isotope Ratio Mass Spectrometry testing. Those tests are used to detect exogenous testosterone. Arum said the money is being put into an escrow account.

    Both Pacquiao and Bradley will be subject to random, unannounced testing up to and including the day of the fight. The commission has hired a World Anti-Doping Agency-accredited collection company to obtain the samples. The samples will be analyzed at a WADA-accredited laboratory.

    In a statement, Aguilar said "As a Commission, we believe that implementing this enhanced protocol is taking our ability to ensure a clean fight to a new level. As always, our primary concern is the protection of the health and safety of the fighters and ensuring fans get a clean fight. We appreciate the support of Top Rank and Bob Arum in making this happen."

    Arum said the fighters had initially agreed to use the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association, but that the commission overruled them.

    "I called [Aguilar] and said, 'Look, we'll go to VADA and have them do it,' and he said no," Arum said. "He said, 'VADA is an outside agency. Let me talk to the commission and we'll do it like we did for the Bradley-[Juan Manuel] Marquez fight [last year].' I told him that was OK as long as it was the full WADA testing, with that stuff, the [CIR and IRMS] tests so we can make sure there is no artificial testosterone.

    "I said that's great. I'm a lawyer and I understand that in a case like this, they're the only ones who can regulate. But now we have great testing and I'm out of it and the commission can handle it. That's the way it should be."

    Pacquiao is spending the first part of his training camp in the Philippines, before finishing it in the U.S. Arum said the testers will be able to test Pacquiao in the Philippines.
    The promoter will have no say in when, where or how the fighters will be tested and the fighters won't be given advance notice of when testers may show up.

    there you go everyone can stop moaning now it is random testing.
     
  3. MrGlass

    MrGlass Active Member Full Member

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    Your favorite fighter hired a guy who makes homemade undetectable PEDS.
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I'm unaware of a state commission ever handling drug testing that is more rigorous than the standard testing the state commissions do...

    Is this a first??
     
  5. tonys333

    tonys333 Active Member Full Member

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    I think they did this in the Marquez vs. Bradley fight am not to sure though so it could be. It seems like a good idea hopefully they can make it the mandatory testing for the commission now that's one way to clean up the sport.
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Except that these "additional random tests" haven't been confirmed as blood tests, have they? If they are not, then it means literally nothing other than trying to save face to fans and media.
     
  7. tonys333

    tonys333 Active Member Full Member

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    they say there going to use the same protocols as VADA so that means blood tests I think. they will also test for CIR and IRMS this is something both VADA and USADA do CIR/IRMS testing is considered among the absolute best methods for determining if testosterone is natural or synthetic. so I think they will just be the same as the Olympic style drug tests I hope.
     
  8. DABOZ

    DABOZ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both Pacquiao and Bradley will be subject to random, unannounced testing

    up to and including the day of the fight. The commission has hired a World

    Anti-Doping Agency-accredited collection company to obtain the samples.

    The samples will be analyzed at a WADA-accredited laboratory.
     
  9. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It makes sense to *****s who believe the word of a 60 year old coke head.
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    "samples"

    Doesn't say blood samples and that's the only reason why they would not get testing done by WADA or USADA.

    Who cares about additional urine tests...?

    It's not the '80's anymore. Urine tests don't catch the majority of PED's athletes are taking these days.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Some people can think for themselves.

    During the Dec. 09-Jan. 10 negotiations, Pacquiao was either hiding something or he didn't want the fight. Those are the only two options. His team walked away from negotiations publicly citing drug testing as the reason. So, you are left with the above two options of why that happened.

    However, this has nothing to do with the thread. The thread is about Pac/Bradley II drug testing and the hypocrisies that both have spewed out if there is a lack of testing for this fight, being that in their previous fight they had a wholly different attitude on the situation.
     
  12. tonys333

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    Executive Director Keith Kizer of the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) says the state’s first run at employing an advanced anti-doping testing program for a professional boxing event was a success.

    “Much praise to SMRTL and its representatives,” Kizer said.

    SMRTL, or the Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory, is one of only two labs in the United States accredited by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) to conduct human doping control sample analyses. There are currently 32 WADA accredited labs around the world. As first reported by TSS, the NSAC contracted SMRTL to conduct the advanced testing program for the October 12th Timothy Bradley vs. Juan Manuel Marquez bout at the Thomas and Mack Center in Las Vegas, Nevada.

    Bradley defeated Marquez by split decision in the fight, 113-115, 115-113 and 115-112. The fight was aired on HBO PPV.

    Kizer said each fighter was randomly tested four times (both blood and urine) during the NSAC program, and that Carbon Isotope Radiation (CIR) screening to detect the use of synthetic testosterone was done on half of the urine samples collected. No synthetic testosterone was discovered in either fighter.

    In addition, Kizer said both urine and blood passports were assembled, giving the lab full-scale biological passports for each fighter.

    “I’m not sure this has ever been done before,” he said.

    Urine and blood passports detect variances in an athlete’s established biological markers rather than testing for specific illegal substances. The tests are designed to catch users of so-called undetectable PEDs by measuring changes in the physiology of athlete.

    Kizer said all tests performed during the program were the latest and greatest recommendations of WADA “and then some” and included the CIR tests and biological passports as well as more common screens for things such as anabolic agents, peptide hormones, metabolic modulators, diuretics, etc.

    The tests performed included screens for Human Growth Hormone (HGH).

    Moreover, Kizer said actual measurements of testosterone to epitestosterone (T/E) ratios were captured for each sample, and that neither fighter’s T/E ratio was over 1.1:1 at any time. For reference, 4:1 is the acceptable T/E ratio according to WADA.

    The PED testing issue between the Bradley and Marquez camps was a hot topic right from the start. The bout was previously considered in jeopardy due to preferences in both camps for different anti-doping programs.

    Marquez reportedly preferred using the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) program, which also administers tests for U.S. Olympic athletes, while Bradley preferred using the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) program, a group founded by ringside expert Dr. Margaret Goodman and considered in some fight circles to be the most advanced of its kind.

    As a compromise, advanced PED testing for the bout was paid for by Bob Arum’s Top Rank Promotions and handled by the NSAC.

    Previously, Kizer would not relate any more specifics about the advanced testing program being administered through the NSAC and conducted by SMRTL other than to say “any and all tests” were possible.

    “Obviously, I’m not going to give any details while the testing is on-going,” said Kizer back in August after the tests began. “I’ll be happy to discuss in detail after October 12.”

    Kizer said he did not believe PED testing programs should be discussed in detail until after the program has ended.

    “It is not uncommon to not talk too specifically about on-going testing,” Kizer answered. “It could affect the efficiency of the testing, and it is not fair to the athletes being tested.”

    In addition to being tested by the NSAC, Bradley also re-enrolled in a VADA program through October 12.

    Information provided by the Marquez camp as well as USADA confirmed their fighter could not enroll in a similar standalone testing program with their preferred provider because USADA would not conduct a testing program while another organization (other than the boxing commission) was testing one or both fighters.

    In total, each fighter submitted four urine tests and four blood samples under the NSAC program, and no abnormalities were found. When asked how the program compares to those administered by USADA and VADA, Kizer declined to comment.

    “I will leave that to you,” he said.
     
  13. tonys333

    tonys333 Active Member Full Member

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    there will be blood tests so that's good news. an it was done for Bradley vs Marquez fist the post above this one explains it.
     
  14. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    So the Lance Armstrong of baaxing is up to his usual **** and given free reign yet again

    Nothing would make me happier than to see Tim come in doped up to his eyeballs and put this cheating shitstain on the cloth of baaxing out of action for good

    :smoke
     
  15. tonys333

    tonys333 Active Member Full Member

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    do you not read before you reply