The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What??? According to you???
     
  2. ValentinePrince

    ValentinePrince Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao beat Marquez 18 months earlier than May.
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Ahhh, looking back at a bump and taking glory in something you said months ago... It's got to be done...
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Indeed he did.

    He scored a widely debated SD victory that it seems at least a slight majority I've talked to scored for Marquez.

    And a debated Draw with him before that which an even greater percentage scored for Marquez.

    And then 2 years after Mayweather beat JMM at WW, Pac beat JMM at WW by a debated MD victory which the widest percentage of viewers yet scored for Marquez.

    Then, 3 years after Mayweather beat JMM at WW, Pac and JMM fought once again at WW. KTFO6.
     
  5. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    sorry the torro ko clipped the chin so we reckon you are wrong, or just misled by hater trolls..

    truth is paq has and always had an absolutely average chin.. you dont get KO'd 3 separate times by non punchers that are tinny to small in size and that means no one can try to claim an bove average chin.

    so average chin is a 5/10


    what he has is a fighters mentality and he has almost always in great physiacll condition. i say almost because he has been known to fight it too small of a weight for many years..

    he only really showed he can take some shots in the 1st morales fight and the first 3 jmm fights, those are pretty much the only fighters from 126-140 that weren't scared of his power and would actually hit hum back. and the cleanest most effective shot landed was by jmm in the 2nd fight. paq threw some wild ass shot and jmm landed cleanly while paq was literally jumping in the air/ of paq wasnt in extremely great condition he would had been down.

    people who the jmm shot would had sleep any WW is laughable..
    sh!t ortiz just took a harder more devastating shot against callozo and he was still somewhat awake. didnt know wtf happened but he wasnt needeing smelling salt tp wake up 5 mins later..

    and to the people who think the jmm shot was even close to the collazo go watch both again. jmm's could look worse to the ill-informed but that is only because it had a greater affect due to it cleaning paq up..

    not like any otyher top fighter would get hit by that jmm shot but i could see most of the good chin WW recovering and fighting on.
     
  6. Imperial1

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    Didn't Floyd also out weigh the much smaller JMM :think
     
  7. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yes 2 ibs. TWO whole pounds on fight night. 4 pounds at the weigh in

    weigh in
    146-142

    fight night
    146-144
     
  8. Imperial1

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    How successful of a welterweight prior :think
     
  9. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's some in depth shite there dude.
     
  10. Imperial1

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    Funny but his fight night weight was never revealed ! Nice try again !
     
  11. One Time

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    What is the actual reason? He will still get his cut while Pacquiao will most likely be the one who loses more money on giving it to Arum.

    What makes it so bad about Arum that makes Floyd not want anything to do with him. Even with Arum in the picture, won't Floyd still make the most money he's ever made? So WHAT'S THE BIG PROBLEM/REASON.
     
  12. One Time

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    Also, in other news, Marquez is about ready to fight Alvarado. What happened to only wanting to fight for legacy or BIG money. How is fighting Alvarado going to be for legacy or bigger money? Wouldn't he get BOTH by fighting and defeating Ruslan?

    How are the Marquez fans the new Floyd fans in saying their man can easily best another yet never fight them?
     
  13. One Time

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    No one knows the answer I see
     
  14. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    only real sh!t here,


    bro, i just answered this for you yesterday
    lets get the myth of it being floyds biggest payday, it will probably be the bieggest ppv but not close to floyds biggest pay. he just made 85m vs nelo cause he only gave nelo a few mil and took the rest. paq is demanding 50/50 so that removes it having a chance to be his biggest pay. it would be far paqs biggest pay even at 65-35 never mind 60/40.. and 50/50 isnt even laughable, that inpossible.

    now back to arum, he ripped him off his last couple fights and is trying to counter sue hoping floyd just drops it. he knew like odh did that floyd was leaving and wanted out. so he even paid cash to buy out of his contract ehil arum still owed him close to 10m. get to that in a second, the reason i feel for paq is because arum did the same thing to floyd. remember when he had to settle his irs BS before the jmm fight, well, that was from fights he had under TR. they are supposed to pay your taxes, fighters would be phuked if they had to deal with that crap too..

    back to the point. that snake never paid him 1 cent for floyds upsisde ppv money from the gatti fight and never paid him 1 cent of his whole paycheck from the judah fight. i dont know what the upside ppv is but the judah fight was 6M, not chump change. and another thing is all the trash arum spews about him to the media, i would literally 2 piece that POS, and wouldn want to put a penny in his pocket. arum said some things around the may 4th 2012 fight that he shouldnt had, personal **** that he later recanted (word ? not sure) but floyd is so fed up with the 2009 agreed no agreed BS and coming out of mediations (agreed to keep out of the media) so arum straight out says floyd is scared, he doesnt want the fight and wouldnt even work with us. then the judge had to issue a statement that contradicts exactly what arum was BS'ing the media about.

    2012 was the worst though, floyd wanted that fight to feel better about going to prison and taking it out on paq would have been great. thought the deal would be easy. both free with a date and venue already set, arim talking like its a go then hr comes back with a cut issue that needed 8 months to heal.. within a couple weeks (prob less) floy gets sentenced so he is going away and the may 5 date in still there. arum is now taking that date for a paq fight. floyds team goes to work and they are able to push the sentence for the figt. just for the fight so he could bring in exremely large a,ounts of money to Vegas. so all set right.. NOPE, cant use to cut excuse anymore because how could it heal in time for someone else but not heal for a floyd fight ?

    so arum now moves to the staduim. the mecca of boxing needs a temporary staduim built for this fight. arum cut it right in the bud. no temp staduim NO FIGHT. once that was confirmed floyd got cotto real quick and that must had dug arum. due x fighters having the biggest event of the year.

    arum is a snake, no two ways about it. he doesnt want to put money in floyds pocket and floyd doesnt want to put money in arums pocket. the biggest and ONLY reason this fight still hasnt happened is arum, at the time, still had more milking of paq thabat was available.

    would you rather make 50m and be done or fight 3/4/5 times bringing in from 20/30m with each fight. and the way arum has boxed him in and everyone else out is its only TR fighting TR so he gets paid from both fighter.

    those are the facts and they are indisputable.
     
  15. Staminakills

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    call me ignorant on this matter but i truly didnt even know rusland had a belt and i remember jmm sayinf he only wants that 5th title and was willing to face winner of paq bradley for the lowly wbo belt..

    i guess mike is looked at as an easier stay sharp or get confidence fight. i dont know, all i know is the warrior has seen far better days and i think he lses to all of the, mike, rus paq and tim.

    oh well, maybe losing to emike will be enough to call it a day
     
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