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yawnnnnnnnnnnnn another mayweather thread by MVC

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buckdacious said: ↑

Even if casuals were dissapoointed because Mayweather didnt lose, it still did 2.2. buys dude

Nobody knew Guerrero and it almost did 900k. Maidana is a serious puncher who just beat a Mayweather clone that people hated. of course its gonna do over a mil buys
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he signs Extension!!! When u know TR doesnt do bussiness with Golden Boy aka everybody thats good at WW then Im bout to consider Pac ducking the whole division.

Now if somehow Pac gets Arum to stop the cold war then i dont mind the extension. but if Arum doesnt then whats the point??

Do we want to see him against Ruslan,Marquez, Bradley 3 (which is a lock in my eyes) Alavardo...Mikey Garcia!!!!! THATS A BUNCH OF CRAP!!!

Who doesnt want to see vs Pacquiao,Maidana,Matthysse,Garcia,Broner,Thruman, Mayweather and the list goes on and on and on.

So does Pacquiao get a pass because hes signed with TR?? NOT IN MY EYES!! I love Pac, hes an ATG, has done alot in the sport but the end of his career is gonna be a bunch of crap if he re signs with TR. when he retires is everybody gonna say "Well he would've fought everybody his last few years but TR didnt have anybody so we cant blame him" BS!!!

For boxing and for Pacquiao...DONT DO IT DUDE...DONT DO IT....

Please dont come in here and just talk about Mayweather, thats getting old. You guys telling me you dont want to see Pacquiao-Matthysse??? ALL OUT WAR!?!?! Garcia,,,Broner...Thurman in a classic (what a fight that would be) come on now. :bbb:bbb

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Staminakills said: ↑

only real sh!t here,

bro, i just answered this for you yesterday
lets get the myth of it being floyds biggest payday, it will probably be the bieggest ppv but not close to floyds biggest pay. he just made 85m vs nelo cause he only gave nelo a few mil and took the rest. paq is demanding 50/50 so that removes it having a chance to be his biggest pay. it would be far paqs biggest pay even at 65-35 never mind 60/40.. and 50/50 isnt even laughable, that inpossible.

now back to arum, he ripped him off his last couple fights and is trying to counter sue hoping floyd just drops it. he knew like odh did that floyd was leaving and wanted out. so he even paid cash to buy out of his contract ehil arum still owed him close to 10m. get to that in a second, the reason i feel for paq is because arum did the same thing to floyd. remember when he had to settle his irs BS before the jmm fight, well, that was from fights he had under TR. they are supposed to pay your taxes, fighters would be phuked if they had to deal with that crap too..

back to the point. that snake never paid him 1 cent for floyds upsisde ppv money from the gatti fight and never paid him 1 cent of his whole paycheck from the judah fight. i dont know what the upside ppv is but the judah fight was 6M, not chump change. and another thing is all the trash arum spews about him to the media, i would literally 2 piece that POS, and wouldn want to put a penny in his pocket. arum said some things around the may 4th 2012 fight that he shouldnt had, personal **** that he later recanted (word ? not sure) but floyd is so fed up with the 2009 agreed no agreed BS and coming out of mediations (agreed to keep out of the media) so arum straight out says floyd is scared, he doesnt want the fight and wouldnt even work with us. then the judge had to issue a statement that contradicts exactly what arum was BS'ing the media about.

2012 was the worst though, floyd wanted that fight to feel better about going to prison and taking it out on paq would have been great. thought the deal would be easy. both free with a date and venue already set, arim talking like its a go then hr comes back with a cut issue that needed 8 months to heal.. within a couple weeks (prob less) floy gets sentenced so he is going away and the may 5 date in still there. arum is now taking that date for a paq fight. floyds team goes to work and they are able to push the sentence for the figt. just for the fight so he could bring in exremely large a,ounts of money to Vegas. so all set right.. NOPE, cant use to cut excuse anymore because how could it heal in time for someone else but not heal for a floyd fight ?

so arum now moves to the staduim. the mecca of boxing needs a temporary staduim built for this fight. arum cut it right in the bud. no temp staduim NO FIGHT. once that was confirmed floyd got cotto real quick and that must had dug arum. due x fighters having the biggest event of the year.

arum is a snake, no two ways about it. he doesnt want to put money in floyds pocket and floyd doesnt want to put money in arums pocket. the biggest and ONLY reason this fight still hasnt happened is arum, at the time, still had more milking of paq thabat was available.

would you rather make 50m and be done or fight 3/4/5 times bringing in from 20/30m with each fight. and the way arum has boxed him in and everyone else out is its only TR fighting TR so he gets paid from both fighter.

those are the facts and they are indisputable.
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Staminakills said: ↑

you're really still asking this ? he did say he never wants to do business with and doesnt wat to but
to fight paq he HAS to he put the BS aisde for this fight but after being abused in the media by arum and paqs team and
having his great offers turned down flat out,

he said the flat 40m offer was the last time he was attempting make the fight. with all the BS an his new contract
paq needs him, he doesnt need paq so he said phuk arum and phuk paq. he knows paq will eventually break and come to floyd.

dude floyd makes money every fight, paq is in debt, somehow and floyd is the one making multiple offers.
one was outragishly insane, floyd gave in to A 50/50 split AND gave paq a cutoff date for testing. i still cant believe he did that.

dude floyds the champ. please explain why you haters expect him to secure the fight.

Please come on, i am so sick of talking about this
give a feasable reason why its all up to the champ, BUT only tell me if you know the true history. dont just tell me floyd is duckin, scared or a coward. i sincerely dont understand where you guys are coming from.. this is all up to paq in the real world and the reality is h is running out of time quickly. if he strugg;es against tim its all but over

floyd went way above and beyond to make this fight yet he is the reason you guys hangs to on to. and he has to make the fight while paq just sits by his phone. floyd called him and got hung up on. yup sounds like someone that want the fight
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dude paq NEVER deserved equal anything. this is not nursey schoo, boxing isnt fair. the champ p4p1 and the biggest money man ever in boxing is required to take a paycut to make it fair ?

due paq never brought in the amount floyd doess, so floyd obviously gets the bigger cut. the only time paq had any leverage at all was in 2009 when he turned equal share, floyd made it clear he will never see that offer again and paq still walked.

then went to 60/40 i more like where paq should had been. the 40m was about a year ago, paq losing to bradley and gettinag comatized by a 40 yr old jmm. so yes after back to back loses and 2 back to back ppv flops floyd wanted to run his ego by offering him what he thought was fair.

the 40m offer wa with no arum, so he didnt auto lose 30% but he said no 50/50 no fight, that is not even realistic. you guys think he deserves equal because his name. his name isnt that big and no way does someone that hasnt won a meaningful fight in years going to get parity, use your head guys

look i am done talking this fight, all i want is any real legit reason why the champ is expected to chase the challenger and pay him so much he cant turn it down. when the facts show he already tried that.

paq has to come to him and make himself available for the fight.
all facts point to paq not so high on the fight but arum roach and paq have you gays so confused, he convinced you guys now in boxing the champ has to chase the challenger. makes perfect sense
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oh you are one of them, i thought you were asking the question because you didnt really know the facts.
i explained them in as easy detail as possible from A to Z,
why would you ask a question and then purposely not read the answer ? i already can tell you're on the dislike floyd
from your excuses comments. you should read it so you dont continue to be so ignorant on the subject will take a max 1/2 mins re-reading many of the points. what i want to know from ANY of the floyd haters that claim he is ducking paq just answer the quetion of accept you are vert wrong in reality which is obvious. it's not a quick arum banged his chick answer.

you have to see what each side did and didnt do and there is onlu 1 possible conclusion. and your skimming was poor because money between arum and floyd for said was never addressed. only money bwteen floyd and arum that was addessed was the money arum is still trying to screw floyd out of. thats a main reason for the problems.. if you werent following boxing back then, then you have to be careful who to listen to. there is a couple floyd haters that have multiple accounts and sprew BS all day everyday. i dont even feel they are paq fanboys or even just fans. they had proven without a doubt they are floyd haters.

and he looked like you are one when you claim "floyd will just make more excuses" i dont know what excuses you are talking bout and neither do you. floyd does NOT want to work with arum at all but has proven on 3 separate occasions he will put that aside for this mega fight.

just some claiming duck coward and all that **** the following,

serious question,
can one of you help me out in explaining why its the champs obligation to make sure he secures a fight with a challenger, i dont know if i ever seen this before. when has this happened ? its always the Challenger securing the fight..

if you truly cant answer this you need to STFU
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Staminakills said: ↑

now that he has the SHO deal it doesnt look good for paq.
can you answer my q question, floyd made 3 legit offers, paq turned them all down but w/e

why is it floyd the champs responsibility to chase paq for the fight ?
in boxing, as long as i know of, the challenger goes after the champ for a fight. but since some of you are only floyd haters and lost you're last argument when floyd is the ONLY one out of the two that attempting at making the fight.
thats fact unless you truly believe floyd "new" paq would turn all offers down. even far undeserved 50/50..

i only want to know why some of you cry nonstop about it being floyds fault for only offering 3 separate deals ranging from 40m to upwards of 100m.
i am pretty sure the challenger is mostly who has to secure his own challenhe to the champ..

the haters talk so much gargahe yet cane ever back up anything they state. nor can they answer simple questions towards ther opinions.

you know who he is, they could be up to 2 of them with multiple ALTs.
hey or they just love typing utter nonsense
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you need to take a break. dude just had a meltdown. :rofl:rofl:rofl

and i skipped more of your post cause it couldn't fit in anymore. :rofl:rofl:rofl

bobotnaman, Feb 17, 2014

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Eastcoast said: ↑

People are burning out on Floyd fights. Lots of casuals were disappointed with Alvarez fight, and Canelo was supposed to be a legit threat. Then there's the boring Guerrero fight, the BS Ortiz fight, and the BS Marquez fight. Maidana or Khan are going to be a tough sell at this point. Lucky to reach 900k.
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pacquaio can fight bums for the rest of his fighting days what he has done in boxing will never be done again he doesnt need to prove himself

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You make it sound like it's one way traffic with the whole TR, Goldenboy situation.

Rangersfan1982, Feb 17, 2014

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Antonymous
Pacquiao and ducking

Synonymous
Mayweather and ducking

bobotnaman, Feb 17, 2014

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haha mayweather isn't even the best boxer MVC, rigo is way better deal with it! LMAO

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Eastcoast said: ↑

People are burning out on Floyd fights. Lots of casuals were disappointed with Alvarez fight, and Canelo was supposed to be a legit threat. Then there's the boring Guerrero fight, the BS Ortiz fight, and the BS Marquez fight. Maidana or Khan are going to be a tough sell at this point. Lucky to reach 900k.
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You know how many times Ive heard this in the past?

Baldomir fight was boring, people walked out on Floyd, he will never be a PPV star.

Hoya fight was boring, it was called 'the world sleeps', Floyd will never be a PPV star.

Marquez fight was a sham, Floyd is picking on the little guys, he will never be a PPV star.

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Khan or Maidana would both sell over a million.

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Lady Girl said: ↑

all he has to do is fight pac, and all is fixed. pac is the biggest money fight out there for him
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Please, get your reasoning right: You know what you're suggesting is not on the table, right? But even IF Mayweather were to fight Pacquiao now, that would solve ONLY ONE of the four slots left.

They might as well get it right now.

P34c3

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Pinpoint accuracy.

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Even Espinoza is sick of cherry picking...

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Mayweather wearing 10 ounce gloves was making ODLH gunshy as **** after r5.

Mayweather's punches hurt and makes everyone honest.

That goes for Canelo as well.

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TheGreenlad said: ↑

haha mayweather isn't even the best boxer MVC, rigo is way better deal with it! LMAO
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Rigondeaux down twice in his career as a result of punches

Mayweather down 0 times in his career as a result of punches

:hi:

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