George Foreman vs. Ray Mercer in 1995

Nah...those two were more like house cats.

 

the difference is, Tyson was coming off a near 5 year hiatus from the ring, barely boxing 8 full rounds in 5 years. Foreman, before facing Holyfield had been very active. In the 4 years preceding the Holyfield fight, Foreman had 25 fights and fought over 80 rounds.

 

And the trade off there, was that Foreman was 42 years old and facing a prime Holyfield, as opposed to a deteriorated one, yet still did better.

 

You are bringing Tyson into this. Stopped on his feet? Then let the fight go and Tyson is ko'd. Holyfield couldn't ko Foreman and that was a better Holyfield.

 

Make it an hour longer. Holyfield couldn't ko Foreman.

 

How about explaining your point instead of talking out of your ass...

 

There was a big difference in Holyfield to the version Foreman fought and the one Tyson fought.

Im not going to go into the whole Evan Fields story, but as i said before, one was an active fighter (regardless of age) the other, coming off a prison term and barely boxing 8 full rounds in 5 years. Throughout this time, Holyfield, old or not, had been ACTIVE. Not only had Holyfield been active, but hed been in with top notch opposition like Bowe, Holmes, Foreman, Moorer and Mercer.

The only big names Holy stopped in the 90s were Douglas, Cooper, and Moorer. All of these had suspect chins, so that means Either a) Tysons chin was **** all along, or b) he wasnt the same fighter after prison.

 

Oh stop with the tough talk.

The point is pretty spelled out. To call Briggs and Savarese young lions is a bit hyperbole, they were certainly young...but lions? That's using the term a bit too liberally, they were not that well regarded.

In fact, Briggs wasn't even undefeated as you claimed. What are you talking about? He was just a year removed from a humilating knockout loss to Wilson.

 

I clearly did not bring Tyson into this, Magoo even cleared this up already.

I've done explained what I feel are the differences between Tyson and Foreman and why Holyfield stopped one and not the other. I really don't get the point even...there are lots of fighters that went the distance with Evander, are we to believe they are all better than Tyson? That's too simplistic of an outlook.

 

Rubbish, Foreman could barely stand at the 12th. He was tired and battered. Don't exaggerate, he would have likely been stopped if it continued. Evander eased off in the last few rounds too.

 

Larry Holmes also went the distance with Holyfield and Ray Mercer

 

Exactly, it don't mean ****. :deal

 

And like Foreman, Larry too had a stylistic advantage over Tyson. Larry had never been stopped, hed been the distance with Holyfield, Larry had never been knocked out before. No way would Tyson beat this 40+ year old.

 

Agreed! And Tyson stood up to how many Holyfield blows at the end of the 10th and still didn't go down? Holyfield never hit Foreman like that; meaning, not with that many power punches, that cleanly, that late in the fight; and still Tyson remained upright.
Tyson showed his granite chin numerous times. And you are right: Foreman never really opened up against Holyfield like Tyson did. Foreman would attack sporadically, with a few power punches, then he'd immediately go into his cross-armed shell.
And Holyfield's head butts did a number on Tyson as well.

 

He couldn't KO Foreman because the bell saved Foreman on two occasions. Holyfield showed that he could seriously hurt Foreman; he just ran out of time on the two occasions when Foreman was ready to go. Don't make it sound like Foreman's chin was granite and Holyfield was just bouncing harmless ping pong balls of George's chin.