Who is greater, Vitaly Klitschko or Floyd Maywether?

Vitali was not made to look bad by Byrd, Vitali was easily outboxing Byrd when he had an injury that took over 2.5 hours of surgery to correct, so quit lying about that fight, Byrd would have had no chance against Vitali in a rematch, none at all, Hell Byrd could not outbox Vitali when Vitali was only using one arm. Vitali did the right thing by quitting and getting surgery. Vlad beat Byrd two times and Byrd was made to look foolish. Byrd was never in Vitali or Vlad's class period. Vitali also came back after retiring for 4 years and easily ou boxed and stopped Peter for the WBC title, a world's record. Vitali was also a six time world kickboxing champion, both pro and amateur. If Vitali were to fight Void, he would step on him and squash him like an ant, so would Vlad. Who is Void's mandatory? Void is running from Pac, has been for years now. Also, Vitali does not beat up women, like Void..............

 

The Clit's rule.
(Love those lil' buggers)

 

I saw the fight, so don't lie to me......................go cut down some sick disabled people, that appears to be your strong point...........I can't see Void confronting high powered rifles, automatic weapons, etc., Void would run like a stuck pig. Void beats up women, Vitali does not. Byrd said that Vitali was harder to fight than Vlad....................now, let's see Void fight Pac with one arm...........................Hell, Void is so afraid of Pac it is destroying him...........

 

I like to cuddle them & rub my nose against 'em

 

Both guys have padded records. Vitalis record is muck much much weaker.

Both Klitschkos are extremely overrated since they have annually been placed among the top 10 p4p for the past few years in several p4p lists. To claim that they are underrated is fallacious and a terrible farce. Simply copy pasting statistics such as the Klitschkos W-L record or KO ratios and numerically comparing them to other great heavyweights simply demonstrates an inability to use logical thinking and an inability to put these misleading statistics into context. After the Holyfield Bowe Tyson Lewis era was finished, the post early 2000s heavyweight division became the weakest division in the history of any weight class of any era since perhaps the beginning of boxing as a sport.

All of the wins in both Klitschkos resumes come against fighters years and years beyond their prime, with padded records, with no name fighters who should not be in a boxing ring to begin with, or some combination of these flaws.

The biggest and most impressive win on both Klitschko's resume is Samuel Peter - who still managed to knock down the bum Wladimir 3 times in one fight. Samuel Peter as your best win does not make you an all time great or a top 10 p4p fighter for several years. In a weak era where Samuel Peter was the best fighter you beat (and one that Wladimir struggled with), it doesn't matter how many title defenses, knockouts, wins, etc. you have. You are not among the elite.

Lennox Lewis - even at 38 years old, fat, in the worst shape of his career, was barely losing on the scorecard 58-56 to Vitali - which could easily have been scored a draw at that point (yet so many idiotic fans try to use this slim edge as validation that Klitschko "won" the fight) and still managed to take complete control of the fight heading into the 6th round and smashed Vitali's face so badly that a medical professional could not allow Vitali to get further annihilated and, in hindsight, Lennox exposed Vitali as a fraudulent champion fighting in a weak era like Rocky Marciano.

Vitali was not dominating the fight. He had a decent start and as the fight went on he was eating uppercuts left and right and continued to clinch excessively. Lennox Lewis (remember - a 38 year old, fat, out of shape Lennox Lewis) still gave him fits and forced a doctor to stop the fight because Vitali was taking such a beating. Ironically people consider this humiliating face bashing to be Vitali's shining moment - that shows how overrated of a boxer you are when getting your faced smashed while having the slimmest of leads on the scorecard is your crowning achievement.

What I have written is UNDISPUTED truth and FACTUAL. This is not opinion or conjecture. I challenge any human being on earth to try and dispute the infallible assertion that, in general, the Klitshkos are extremely overrated by the media and public.

The following arguments do not disprove what has been written above and if one uses these fallacious arguments it will only prove one's own incompetence - much like Wladimir proved his incompetence as a boxer in getting demolished by Brewster (and falsely making up a poison excuse, no less.) Sanders and Puritty, and how Vitali demonstrated his incompetence as a boxer in having a relatively terrible performance against a trash version of Lennox Lewis.

1) Vitali is 45-2 with losses coming by injury stoppages and a 87% KO ratio. Wladimir is 59-3 with 51 KOs. Few boxers can match these numbers.
And who was the best opponent these boxers beat? Samuel Peter. Padded records mean nothing. Brian Nielsen was 49-0 at one point. Eric Esch was 61-1-3 at one point. Copy pasting statistics does not prove anything when you fail to put them in context. I highly doubt anyone is foolish enough to put Eric Esch above Evander Holyfield despite the fact that Esch has a higher winning percentage. If Holyfield fought both Klitschko's level of competition he would walk through them without a scratch.

2) Lennox Lewis was afraid of Vitali and ducked a rematch.
First of all - Lennox Lewis made Riddick Bowe duck HIM, he fought Holyfield twice, was willing to fight Tyson for several years and finally did, fought Mccall and Rahman even after being KOd, and Tommy Morrison, but some people are foolish enough to think he is scared of fighting KLITSCHKO of all people???
Secondly as mentioned several times - Lennox was 38, fat, in the worst shape ever, past his prime, and still made Vitali's face look like the deer my friend killed and put through the grinder a few weeks ago.
Thirdly - Why should a man in the physical twilight of his career (Lennox) risk his health for one more fight when he didn't take the fight seriously in the first place (still winning by TKO) and already proved his place among the all time greats? Vitali should be on his knees kissing Lennox's feet for even giving a bum like Klitschko the opportunity to fight an all time great like Lennox. Lennox isn't in the position of Joe Louis who had to come back and fight because of IRS problems, so he has no reason to risk his health after already risking it for over a decade against fighters lightyears beyond Klitschko.

3) the Klitschkos are foreign so they do not get respect.
really? Marquez, Pacquiao, Chavez sr, Duran, Monzon, Sergio Martinez, Genady Golovkin, Adonis Stevenson, Maidana, Rigondeux, Donaire do not get respect?
anyone who said this - shut up. No need to pull the race/nationality card

4) The Klitschkos records are numerically similar/better than other great heavyweights like Evander, Tyson, Ali, Foreman, etc.
Again, copy pasting statistics does not prove anything. Look at the men that the REAL heavyweights had to fight compared to the bum Klitschkos.
Bowe, Lennox, Moorer, Tua, Tyson, Evander, Morrison, Spinks, Foreman, Patterson, Frazier, Norton, Liston, etc.

Now lets compare the Klitschkos wins - Peter, old washed up Mercer, old washed up Rahman, Chris Byrd, Orlin Norris (who lost to a washed up Tyson), Purrity, Sanders, 38 year old fat Lennox, Chisora, Haye, Povetkin, Eddie Chambers. the hilarious thing is that they actually lost to some of these fighters on the list.

HUGE difference in competition.

Anyone who legitimately believes the farce that either Klitschko is an all time great heavyweight (let alone an ATG p4p fighter) is simply one of the many sheep that blindly follow the herd without thinking for themselves. I have blessed such blind sheep with my wisdom and knowledge and opened their eyes to the truth. It is time for these blind sheep to acknowledge the truth, otherwise I fear that these sheep blindly stumbling through the dark for so long will deny the truth even more vehemently now that these blind sheep have been exposed to the light of truth.

You do have to give the Klitschkos credit for dominating the division, even though it is incredibly weak. That in itself deserves SOME merit. You should not, however, put them among the all time greats after Vitali has been exposed by Lennox Lewis and Wladimir got showed up by Purrity Brewster and Sanders, and struggled against Sam Peter.

Again - I challenge any human being to try and refute my indisputable factual statements at the risk of making themselves look as incompetent as the Klitschkos in their attempts to be ranked among all time great heavyweights. If any human being can refute the irrefutable facts listed, I will respond and recognize their superior wisdom and knowledge. Unfortunately for Klitschko fans, the only people who possess wisdom and knowledge superior to myself would never try and refute these facts in the first place. For that reason, the chances of receiving a response from myself are negligible.

 

I think crap is greater than this thread.

 

yes i agree,

on the Vitali Floyd question ???

well i without a doubt i say Vitali, the height difference would be so hard for pretty boy to deal with, plus the big fella would be able to push that lil fella around all over the place tiring him out,,, i see Vitali starting to connect after the first round and showboating by Floyd using up more energy than he cares to admit,,, i see Vitali hitting Floyd with those awkard lefts that come from a weak angle but are harder than one would think,,, i see Floyd trying to pretend that they didn't bother him getting clocked with a right hand behind the ear and going to dodge away with his legs on ***** street going right threw the ropes landing with his open mouth on a microphone ramming it deep into pretty boys mouth way too far,,, so far that when they turn him over they realize that it will not come out without force and Floyd ain't breathing,,,,

now if your asking who is greater in the sport of boxing not head to head and not related to divisions than Floyd, there is no question,,,

i kinda thought that's where the thread starter was coming from,,

i simply gave both angles a think and came up with the head to head question of which one would be greater if they fought head to head and that's what came into my head so i went with it for fun

 

Is this a serious question? Lol

Floyd may be a cherry picker but his resume is still miles better than Floyd

 

Mayweather beat 20 world champions. Vitali beat 3.

Vitali is the troll option.