you got owned idiot. now you want to escape and talk about grammar. "LaMotta was an under-sized middleweight by today's standards at 5'8" and fight day weigh-ins at 160 pounds" accdg to you lamotta is: UNDER-SIZED = HEIGHT (5'8') + MASS/WEIGHT (160lbs, same day weighins blah blah). now twist that **** you ****ing dumb idiot. tell me height is not a factor on size according to your statement. yeah, put on ignoer because you got owned.:hi:
People on the thread keep talking about how strong La Motta was, but he wasn't actually a big puncher, he was more of an attrition guy, and those types of fighters will find themselves struggling against Floyd every time, because you won't land enough to wear Floyd down, and you don't hit hard enough to suddenly change the tide. Plus La Motta was outboxed plenty of times, and take into consideration same day weigh-ins and you realize Floyd has fought bigger guys on many occasions. Floyd would outbox him using defense, legs, speed and end out with a UD
theres absolutely no point arguing a point with someone who cant see how inferior la motta is to mayweather.one is a fast accurate tactically perfect superb counter puncher with an almost inpenetratable defense and the other is a face forward wild wide punching slugger,he would be picked apart with absolute ease
Jimmy Reeves was a Light heavy, and was also knocked out by LaMotta, you need a better ace in the hole...
Nobody is denying Mayweather is a better boxer, but he has been hurt in the past, and your are putting him against a guy who is bigger stronger, and would not care what Mayweather throws at him and would come forward on him all night, and would be pounding on his body non-stop with his wide hook, and bully him. This is not a Featherweight, or a lightweight moving up to fight Mayweather, the chances of Mayweather not getting knocked out are slim to none. He has nothing to make Lamotta cautious, and once those body punches start hurting Floyd, he'd go body to head and KO him. There is such a thing as too big. I suppose Floyd easily beats Marciano to because he is not a great boxer, but a swarmer?
They fought at Middleweight though, in the era of fight day weigh-ins meaning they were 160 on the day of the fight and weren't blowing up 10-15 pounds like they do today. I know Reeves finished heavier, but the point is, Reeves isn't exactly on any ATG lists if you know what I mean and was able to outbox "Raging Bull." LaMotta wouldn't even be a middleweight today. Fight day weigh ins are a thing of the past. LaMotta is actually smaller than people Mayweather has already beat convincingly. (If we're having a conversation about size, and boxing ability should not even be a question in this discussion.) This idea that LaMotta would be "too big and too strong for Mayweather" is absolute fantasy. And PowerPuncher summed it up nicely regarding LaMotta's over-rated status.
You know Robinson was only a 140 -147 pound guy right meaning he wasn't much bigger than Mayweather right? Because jack ass old time boxing writers tell you Robinson was great doesn't mean he was right? You know Robinson for the most part of his career avoided black fighters and when he did he struggled against them right? He feasted of slow plodding white fighters like Mayweather feasted on slow plodding Hispanic fighters. You know Lamotta had 90 wins and maybe 30 KO's right? You know Mayweather's defense is far superior to Robinson's right? You know Lamotta beating Robinson proved nothing right since he was 170 pounds to Robinson's 140? You know Jake Lamotta would have no change of beating Mayweather right? End of story.
Show me the eigh ins where Lamotta weighed in light, and show me where he weighed 160 during the fight. Do you really think fighters just recently started rehydrating.
Yeah, the movie version of him showed him as a punching bag with power, and actually a less despicable human being that he really was. Actually, the movie makes him look like a Saint compared to how LaMotta really was (according to Lamotta himself in his book). LaMotta wasn't a big puncher, but was very strong physically. He used his upper body a lot to avoid shots and was known for being difficult to catch cleanly. When he was worn down against Robinson in the 6th fight, he turned into an inhumanly tough punching bad. But he showed a nice jab in it, he actually outjabbed SRR, he was getting that double jab in a lot.