George Foreman vs. Ray Mercer in 1995

Meaningless hyperbole. Foreman isn't taking another hour of punishment and he got visibly rocked and moved enough times to toss the "pesky fly" analogy into the trash.

 

Throw what you want in the trash. You may as well throw in "on his way out".

 

He certainly was hurt enough that Evander believed he was going, but that wasn't the case so I'm fine with that.

 

There's an interview where Evander believed George was going?

 

I am a realist. I have praised Foreman on many occasions, but I have also criticized him on many occasions as well. The same thing I've done to countless other fighters. I don't believe in simply being a blind follower, ignoring the negatives but highlighting and often embellishing the positives. Keep things fair and balanced.

 

LOL.....Foreman was hurt badly. Holyfield nailed him with a beautiful right cross, and then Foreman, stunned, dropped his hands; Holyfield then pounced on him and drove George to the ropes. Foreman did not retaliate until after the bell rung. Big George was a tough, tough guy, but like others have pointed out, he was not impervious to Holyfield's punches. The bell rang here just in time to save Foreman. Holyfield was all over the big guy. Foreman did not just SHAKE IT OFF! LOL.
Is Foreman a super hero to you? Seriously?

 

I know it is my perogative. I stand by everything I posted. Foreman's comeback was oh-so-carefully choreographed to maximize his chances at getting a multi-million dollar world heavyweight championship title fight. And a main component of that choreography was to avoid any real threats along the way, because a loss would have knocked Foreman out of the title hunt (and that would have meant goodbye big-money payday!). Foreman would rather prove his contender status by fighting often against bums instead of fighting one top-rated guy; so it was quantity over quality. And yes, Foreman was tough; he took a lot of punishments in fights and had great determination, but that in and of itself does not legitimize his comeback.

 

I'm not seeing the balanced.

 

I wasn't aware that every time a fighter stuns another fighter and than jumps on said fighter as if he's looking to score a stoppage there is an interview required to confirm that the attacker believed his opponent was vulnerable to being knocked out or stopped.

I met you in the middle and that's the best you are going to get. You are starting to come off like your being a ***** just to be one now.

 

He took the very best A peaking Evander had to offer. He became the first man in Holy's last 13 fights to survive the distance in a match that a lot of people applauded him for. three and half years later he made history and won the title by knocking out another prime champion. If you prefer to make excuses for his success and call these achievements "illegitimate", then there's nothing else I can do to argue this matter. You seem to think that he needed to put together a percession of wins over Tim Witherspoon, Razor Ruddock, Garry Mason and Carl Wiliams all in a row before getting his shot, when in fact no other contender did that, there bye holding him to a higher standard. So maybe its you who thinks he was a super hero?

 

So Foreman gets his title shot against Holyfield and gets beat up badly in the match. He next hand picks Jimmy Ellis, a former football player or was it a full time construction worker? Then Stewart pounds on him after absorbing 2 knockdowns. If that fight goes 2 more rounds Foreman loses it. Then Pierre Coetzer, who had gotten brutalized by Bowe and Bruno before Foreman got to him. Then Morrison...then retirement.

For a 40 something year old man he did a helluva job in his comeback. The win over Moorer was incredible. I was a senior in high school and my friends were having a rager. I flipped on ESPN and the news hit. It made that party 10 times better! The good ole days. Anyways, the frustration when defending against the Schultzes and Grimsleys of the world, and Foreman struggling against them, and then getting his titles stripped...that left a ton to be desired.

We need to be realistic and see both sides. EVERY time he stepped his competition up he got beat. I'm sure if Tyson, Bowe, Lewis, Ruddock or Mercer were ever champion that Foreman would want to face them. He just wanted that one shot, and in between he wanted to stay relevant. The only reasons he took on Stewart, Morrison and Coetzer were because they got knocked out in prior fights. Stewart by Holyfield, Tyson and Moorer. Morrison by Mercer but struggled with Hipp and Carl WIlliams. Coetzer got waxed by Bowe and Bruno.

 

You wrote that Holyfield believed he had Foreman going at that particular point. Sometimes you might see an interview where a fighter mentions something where he felt the other fighter was going at some point in the fight. Yes, when a fighter has someone stunned he starts laying it on. Holyfield obviously throughout the fight was laying it on. By starting this name calling garbage doesn't put you in a good light. We obviously disagree on some things and frankly writing "hyperbole" all the time was getting annoying but I didn't comment on it until now.

 

George Foreman was 8-0 in his comeback before he fought Dwight Qawi.

He was 17-0 before Bert Cooper

19-0 before fighting Cooney.

22-0 before fighting Rodriguez

Tommy Morrison was 24-0 before his people took a chance on him fighting James Tillis, who by that point was probably more faded and useless than any of the previous names listed for Foreman. Riddick Bowes early career track doesn't look any more impressive and neither does Bruce Seldon's. Mercer and Lewis are the only two prospects at the time who began fighting quality opposition at an earlier stage in their careers than Foreman did in his comeback, which at that point he had to be considered as a newly starting prospect himself.

 

Oh I know exactly what you were doing with that comment.

If you don't want to be called a "*****" don't act like one. I don't care what light I'm seen in.

If you don't want to be called out on using "hyperbole" don't make cartoonishly exaggerated claims and expect them to be took seriously.

 

I would suggest you don't act like one. We don't agree. You have your views and I have mine.