Maidana is a bigger mismatch than Guerrero/Ortiz/Alvarez

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    About equal with Guerrero (both in general head to head terms and in resume: Karass/Lopez/Broner with a loss to Alexander versus Aydin & Berto...) but vastly superior to Ortiz whose exploits at welter added up to a fat lot of nothing in comparison. (Toño Diaz, shot Vivian Harris, life and death with Berto...)
     
  2. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Butt, there are differences in a 2011 victor ortiz than there is in the 2014 one.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    One sucks even more? :think

    The differences aren't stark enough to register on my radar. Sucking is sucking, in any year.
     
  4. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rios lost to Abril. Morlaes & Alexander both rank way higher. Post fail *******.
     
  5. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah sure with canelo, but you and 'others' were like maybe with guerrero and ortiz?! - :rofl

    Maidana has next to nothing chance but still, maidana > ortiz, guerrero
     
  6. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah i can go with RG being equal (i feel Maidana is slightly better though but its an opinion)l to a Maidana fight. I was looking forward to their LWW fight in August 2011 until RG got injured.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

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    Yeah, it definitely comes down to opinion and can be argued either way.

    Any combination of any two of Soto Karass, Lopez, and Broner can be put right up there with Aydin & Berto (and when you toss in the otherwise meaningless Angel Martinez, it means that Maidana had twice as many victories under his belt @ 147lbs...so greater quantity with 3/4 being equal quality to Guerrero's 2...) but the lopsided Alexander defeat kind of, for me anyway, offsets that.

    I actually think Guerrero vs. Maidana would be a lot of fun now at 147lbs, and remember wishing it would come together a few years back @ 140. Very interesting h2h match-up. They both have qualities anathema to each other.
     
  8. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Totally agree, in fact we was only 2 weeks away from seeing this in 2011 which is a shame, i remember the press conference and build up and then the bad news about RG pulling out due to injury.

    Maidana said this caused him depression and didn't help for his next fight with Devon, then his trainer got sick 4 weeks before the Devon fight. Not a good 5 months for Chino, glad he bounced back in the last 2 years, its a good story as he earned it.
     
  9. The Akbar One

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    I am not sure that Maidana is better than Baldomir was. Which makes him one of the worst Floyd opponents, and worse belt holders in welterweight history. The real Maidana is the guy that was getting his arse whooped by Victor Ortiz, before Ortiz bitched out mentally. Or the guy that was going life and death with old arse Eric Morales. Or the guy that was easily outboxed and hurt on several occasions by Devon Alexander. That is the real Maidana. This Floyd vs Maidana fight is a huge mismatch. Maidana beating a blown up 130 pounder doesn't really mean ****. There are real opponents for Floyd to fight at or around the weight.
     
  10. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Clearly you dislike Maidana:huh
    The guy is not a bum. He does not avoid anybody and he fights through the storm. Will he have a chance with Floyd.....ummmmm 99.9% sure he fails but he will not quit or cry:|

    A bum is a person who avoids work.....That is never the case with Maidana:bart

    :smoke
     
  11. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Thank you....Maidana has earned and deserves everything he has today including this fight with Floyd. Unlike other boxers Maidana is here to FIGHT:good:bbb

    Bum.....people are so ******ed to call Maidana a bum:patsch

    :smoke
     
  12. Bald_Toad

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    maidana is a one-dimensional paper champion. mayweather should be fighting pacquiao, bradley or lara. canelo, guerrero and ortiz were all hype jobs. FACT
     
  13. vast

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    The overriding sense is that this fight will not be close. It's a styles mismatch.
     
  14. Florez

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    :deal
     
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    Mayweather knows when to fight his opponents, he fights champions but they are either flat footed, slow, predictable or not ready for the big stage.

    Also Mayweather bashing Pacquiao on catchweights but how about the fight against Marquez catchweight which he came in overweight?

    Also a catchweight against Alvarez. :deal