Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Vitali, Wilder, Wlad competition analysis

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  1. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Was Michael Moorer added to the list?
     
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  3. eltirado

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    Red list :good
     
  4. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kirk Johnson,and Hasim Rahman
     
  5. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One of my favorites 123-297-17
    Redlister below Savarese above Steele
     
  6. eltirado

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    Interesting, never thought of his competition :think
     
  7. eltirado

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    Valuev & DRod cluster closely, Wach needs more wins to get on the list :bbb
     
  8. eltirado

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    Well he was already fighting heavyweights at late teens record, many of the opponents are also guys who started under heavyweight, as long as 31 mark is heavyweight, same with Byrd
     
  9. eltirado

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    Listed from best competition to worse by ratio of competition in the first 31 fights

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    31-0 (KO 28 ) vs 428-150-18, 2.9-1 ratio - Bowe
    30-1 (KO 29 ) vs 597-212-19, 2.8-1 ratio - Vitali
    31-0 (KO 31 ) vs 428-196-19, 2.2-1 ratio - Wilder
    30-1 (KO 27 ) vs 592-295-25, 2.0-1 ratio - Wlad
    30-1 (KO 25 ) vs 367-187-16, 2.0-1 ratio - Tua
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  10. eltirado

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    Any fight at any weight technically makes the heavyweight limit & not vice versa. Sam L was a very small heavyweight so as La Mar Clark & a long list of heavyweights who fought in other weight divisions.

    Holyfield is the rare modal of the brave fighter who managed to make it to 30-1, a solid ATG heavyweight, his count starts from pro-debut like everyone else. Any other formula only increases his rating anyways and creates endless work with the rest of the guys, the best is how simple it is now. Clean, plain and open to everyone so they can see what everybody was feasting on :yep

    Whats with the desperation to remove Holyfield from the list :huh Are you AquaRecruit Bowe :yep
     
  11. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just do the same for the entire careers.
     
  12. eltirado

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    Its possible, but the trick is that journeymen that are constantly matched with big records will top that list :yep

    This type of selection, zeros down on manfactured fighters (well managed fighters) all with the possible exception of Holyfield who was managed by the man upstairs himself...hence the high win ratio & his religious appointment as reproduction stud on earth :deal
     
  13. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    I suggest people ignore this thread. Guy is either a troll or Wilder just really knows how to turn his gears if you know what I mean.

    From the Wilder/Scott thread:

     
  14. eltirado

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    You might aa well add and read the bible aka ring magazine right pastor mongoose :think

    Wilder KTFO bitter Mongoose go rematch Ezzard outdated archaic fool :tired

    Its 2014 accept the fact that the hardest puncher in history is Wilder...if not Wilder its Wlad :deal

    Go look at all athletic records, humans evolved to preform physically stronger in all sports...The Roman empire had bas ass legions, but today Vietnam alone owns the Roman legions with all archaic **** and 5'1 knights :yep
     
  15. The Mongoose

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    chiseled twitch muscles