This is why Mayweather's opponents go into Survival Mode..........

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  1. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    When you start the fight outboxing someone, then begin walking your opponent down it mentally dismantles the fighter, breaking his will.

    A man's defense and speed culminates into a level of elusiveness you have never witnessed. You keep getting countered and then by the 5th round, he is so confident he turns the tables on you and starts walking you down.

    Are the fighters of today mentally weaker?
     
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    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Today's boxers are all around weak.
    The dweebs like to talk nonsense about today's boxers being in better shape then boxers of the past, but the truth is they are levels weaker.

    None of them can fight the 20-30 rounds of Johnson's time.
    Neither can they fight the 15 hard rounds of Ali's.
    They throw fewer punches and fight less rounds.


    Look at one of the best HW fights in recent times; Vitali Vs Lewis

    By round 5 they were both gassed out. By rd 6 they both were drawing on reserves.
    Lewis was out of shape, but Vitali was in the best shape of his life.
    Ali would have taken them both to the 8-10th rounds and KO'ed either of them.
     
  4. nicamarvin

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    No, Floyd would have done the same to 99.99% of all fighters that have live today.... that 0.01% are the ATG of boxing history...:bbb



    Floyd is just that good
     
  5. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    ortiz got up smiling.

    what do you think a duran or hearns does to an ortiz?

    not only ortiz be mentally broken, he would be shitting in his shorts before the fight.

    pedjr looks good outboxing bums.:good
     
  6. nicamarvin

    nicamarvin Guest

    K.O6 Deal With It ******.....!
     
  7. TheHogan

    TheHogan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Punches take more out of a fighter when they hit air.
     
  8. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ortrees is just ******ed he would smile no matter who just whipped his ass.
     
  9. Meazy-E

    Meazy-E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think that argument is horse **** either way it goes, while I agree today guys are no better they are certainly not worse. Yeah jack Johnson's time was 25 or so rounds, but they fought to save energy. Low work rates, low guards, and the main place for exchanging punches was in a clinch where all they were throwing was arm punches with no real pop or KO power, and less exhausting.
     
  10. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So it has nothing to do with the fact he hand picked his opponents for the last few years? The guy is elite but it gets magnified by who he fights. Other than his dismantling of JMM, he has fought mediocre opponents.
     
  11. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LOL. Horse **** makes for a good fertilizer. Much more powerful than wishful thinking.

    You mean the Klitschos don't clinch during their 12 round fights to conserve energy? Did you see Vitali-Lewis? Was Vitali not exhausted and clinching in round 5?

    Are you saying that Jack Johnson and Sullivan had no leverage in their punches.
     
  12. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes I think the fighters of today are both mentally and physically weaker. Mayweather is a great counter puncher, so after enough rounds of getting countered, that will definitely take a tole on them and they will start to question throwing shots.
     
  13. jas

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    atg post :deal:thumbsup:good:bowdown:bowdown:clap:
     
  14. icarus1

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    they have nice paycheck and will be rewarded more if they play their part well and not hurt the cash cow
     
  15. Meazy-E

    Meazy-E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jesus Christ. Did I say that? No. Did I say guys today do not clinch? No. I said majority of exchanges in Johnson's era happened in clinch and were arm punches, cause most of what they did was about conserving energy. Did I say there was no leverage? No. But when fighting in the clinch throwing short arm punches it is a lot less exhausting that throwing heavy punching using the whole body. Also we should probably make not of an extra 40 lbs on klitschko. And about 6 inches of height and longer reach meaning his punches traveling a longer distance are more exhausting. It's true a large heavyweight cannot keep up with the work rates of smaller heavies of the past, but that has little to do with conditioning.

    Edit: and nice job adding in your little horse **** comment after you already posted.