The "MYTH" of boxing superstars???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by WildStyle, Mar 16, 2014.


  1. WildStyle

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    Boxing has continued to disappoint me on so many levels over the past decade it seems--since I started really paying attention to the fight game on the internet. I was always a fan since the early 80's, but never followed it as closely as I have in the last decade since I really got into boxing messageboards and watching fights online.

    With that said, when I look at boxing's so-called superstars, I can't help but feel disappointed in what I see. Take the Mayweather-Pac debacle, and how much money didn't get made because of nitpicking whiny babies.

    That never would've happened with Hagler-Hearns. No way in hell. And what do we get instead of those two fighting? Floyd fighting guys who don't measure up, and Pac arguably losing to JMM multiple times.

    Take a guy like Tim Bradley, who is considered one of the most popular guys in boxing. You could argue that he lost his last three fights in a row.

    Wlad is the HW king, yet, so many people can't stand the way he fights, and for good reason. He may score a lot of KO's, but he's hardly beating the Evander Holyfield's of the world. He fights a very safety-first way of fighting, and fights a lot off the back foot and holds and pushes down on his opponent whenever they get close. Not exactly endearing to the audience.

    Do I really even need to bring up Gamboa and Rigondeaux?

    I could name more, but you get the point. I don't think a true boxing superstar currently exists in the landscape of boxing nowadays. There sure as **** isn't anyone as compelling as Tyson.

    Hell, we don't even have anyone on DLH or RJJ's level in terms of bringing a huge fanbase and backing it up.

    We don't even have a character like Naseem Hamed.

    I'm not saying boxing is dead, but there are no true superstars in the sport. The way Mayweather has gone about the 2nd part of his career has been smoke and mirrors. Yeah, he's flashy. Yeah, he's rich. But where is his Tommy Hearns if he's SRL?

    Boxing has a lot of work to do to change perceptions like this, otherwise lifelong fans like me just might start paying less attention to the fights on Sat. night.
     
  2. TonyGrub

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    Mayweather's disappointing, for me. He really ought to be having a crack at Martinez or even Golovkin, to really cement himself as an all-time great. Picking apart tough but limited pugs like Maidana is a joke and does nothing for him, or the sport.
     
  3. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's sad two boxers command most of the money in boxing. For every mayweather or pac fight, 10 bradley-prov fights could be made.
     
  4. Florez

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    Well, if Martinez struggles with Cotto or doesn't perform well but manages to defeat Cotto..... Maybe Mayweather will jump for the opportunity since Martinez is the champion.

    Like I said.... 2 years ago we never have thought of Mayweather-Maidana fighting each other but now that he is the ''champion'', Mayweather chooses him but is tailor made for him. :deal

    I wonder what Mayweather will say if Pacquiao becomes the ''WBO 147 Champion'' again after defeating Bradley next month.
     
  5. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've just finished reading Tyson's book & I've got a whole new level of respect for him, he treated his opponents with contempt, thought of himself of a boxing warrior & the next in line from previous greats, all his opponents where unworthy & he would destroy them mentaly, emotionly & physically.
    That coupled with the fact that he was high on coke in the majority of his fights after he beat Spinks/Holmes, shows how much of nightmare he was, imagine he was sober & focused throughout his career?
    He would probably go down as the greatest.

    I just wish that there was someone with even half the drive, ambition & ferocity of Tyson was around now, no doubt he'd be p4p 1.
     
  6. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    why should floyd fight out of his weight division, to suit your perverse desires? Why are ggg & martinez not calling ward 1 division up? Tyson was a jackass form birth man!
     
  7. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why won't Floyd fight Pac & Bradley in his own division?

    Why won't he fight GGG in his own division (154)

    Tyson's the greatest fighting jackass ever!
     
  8. TonyGrub

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    What's his weight division? Over the past five years, anywhere from 147-154lbs has done for him. No reason why he couldn't fight Martinez or Golovkin. These are the guys he should be fighting, not Marcos Maidana.
     
  9. Florez

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    Mayweather knows when to fight a ''champion'' and he knows Maidana is tailor made for him.

    The only thing that he can say is that Maidana is a ''champion'' and he beat a fighter in Broner that ''fights'' like me.

    Easy $$$$, Mayweather by Unanimous decision or even a late TKO just to show people that Maidana was tailor made for him. :deal
     
  10. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    i understand where your coming from but haveyou come to that conclusion whilst taking in the FACT that most JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHTS outweigh floyd on fight night ? and we are talkin about floyd here whos competed as high as 154 ?

    do you still think he should move up to 160?
     
  11. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    couldn't disagree more...
    pacman was the fight that had to be made

    Floyd loses mobility at 154, so 160 isn't going to happen
     
  12. TonyGrub

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    Yeah, I do.

    Floyd's never relied on size, strength or power to win fights and gives away weight against most opponents. A few more lbs won't make a difference.

    For what it's worth, I think he decisions Golovkin and may have a tricky time against Martinez, depending on which version turns up.
     
  13. Bulletproof

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    For all the people insisting that Floyd needs to fight at 160 just tells you how great he is. Floyd is head and shoulders above the talent from 140-154, so to "test" himself because he's better than the competition he should fight a middleweight they say.
     
  14. Barrera

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    yeh i know he never relies on size but at what point do you draw the line. i mean we have divisions for a reason?

    i think ggg at 160 (cant really say because we wont know how he fights at 154) could beat mayweather but for a undefeated champion and icon like mayweather to lose that way ? i dno man leaves a sour taste in my mouth, if he does lose im hoping its a strong up and comer fighter (like a canelo or a thurman)

    i am suprised how many interviews floyd has done and yet iv never herd anyone ask if he plans to go up to middleweight (especially with the cotto martinez fight coming up)
     
  15. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This, Tyson was a bully with boxing skills nothing more nothing less and if he wasted his talent it was his own fault. And for all the so called boxing fans it's not GREATNESS to be in the pros 18 years, and all ways be in shape and focused?