Why did Bradley do well against Marquez but struggled against Pacquiao?

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  1. JV28

    JV28 Active Member Full Member

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    I know the simple answer would be "styles make fights" but I need further analysis than that lol. Is it because Bradley's brand of aggression is something that Marquez struggles against, while at the same time it's a brand of aggression that Pacquiao feeds upon?
     
  2. jas

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    pacquaio has faster feet, bradley was able to hit and not get hit by marquez, gettin in and out of range, because juans feet werent fast enough
     
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    marquez is orthodox and a naturally counter puncher and slower than bradley.

    it is easier for bradley to stay outside and land his jab.

    marquez was forced to pressure him which is not natural for him.

    and bradley is a tough mofo. pressure isnt enough to beat him.
     
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    JV28 Active Member Full Member

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    How do you explain Pacquiao's pressure though?
     
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    Perfect example of style makes fights Bradley schooled Marquez but PAC schooled Bradley
     
  6. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    because bradleys chrome dome has the newest anti PED technology..

    no im serious .. some people think he juiced for pac but he could not even hurt bradley who realistically has a weaker chin then pac (or about on par)
     
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    he is a southpaw with faster hand and feet and naturally offensive fighter.

    bradley cant just defend bec he need offense to win, he was forced to trade and wasnt able to hang with pac.

    with marquez, he had his offense going landing his jabs effectively.

    so when pressured, he can just focus on defending. weve seen he can trade with anyboy when forced but he had chosen to just box marquez bec he can.

    being a southpaw, outboxing pac is not easy, you will be hit and you need granite chin for it.
     
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    Moving your feet, left hooks ,uppercuts, right hands are pacs nemesis!!
     
  9. Scar

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    It's because Marquez was forced to be the aggressor in this fight and Marquez is terrible at being the aggressor as the Mayweather fight proved. You can clearly see that whenever Bradley decided to be the aggressor Marquez would have his moments but as soon as he's forced to go forward Bradley takes over.
     
  10. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bradley has a weaker chin than Pac? LMAO. Pac's been KOd several times. U saw Bradley's chin against Prov.
     
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    you will be eating straight lefts and right hooks trying to land yours.

    countering pac is not easy. you need granite chin and enough power to stop pac on his track or make him reset.

    countering a southpaw with speed and power is hell.

    is not like marquez is unblemished.

    bradley has to punch harder and will need a harder chin. im not sure he can develop both overnight.

    he will rely more on his speed and movement trying to outbox pac.

    goodluck outboxing a southpaw with more speed and power.
     
  12. Scar

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    It's only one KO, the other two were body punches.
     
  13. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bradley's footwork allowed him to dictate against Marquez who wasn't given much to work with.

    Pacquiao's quick feet did the same thing to Bradley, causing him to react instead of box.
     
  14. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    id agree with this
     
  15. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    pac got ko'd twice AGES AGO. since then he took big shots from big punches and did not even seem phased by them until his undoing in the 4th marquez fight which seems to be evidence that his punch resistance is starting to fade (i refer to the 3rd round knockdown by the way not the actual knock out punch because what marquez landed was about as close to a perfect shot as you can get when your opponent runs into it)

    bradleys got a good chin no doubt but against provodnikov he was wobbled like hell multiple times and im pretty sure holt put him down, i dont know what to tell ya mate but i think they both have great chins