Why did BHop struggle so much against JT?

He didn't. Hopkins was robbed because they wanted the more marketable fighter to hold the title.

 

Bull**** excuse. Hopkins fans (also) hold onto the belief that it was a blatant robbery, which it clearly wasn't. Two horribly boring fights which deserved no winner in either. However, over the two fights, I honestly though Taylor was the better man. There is no way you can make a case for Taylor being the better choice for HBO at that stage. Hopkins was a proven draw, albiet a small one. Taylor was showing potential but if they wanted to fix the fight, logic says they would have in Hopkins' favour.

 

nobody would argue that both fights were at least very close. Hopkins didnt start fighting til about the 6 or 7th round if I remember correctly (no way Im rewatching those fights!! :dead )

Though Jack I have to disagree about HBO not backing Taylor. HBO had been building him up for quite some time as the heir.

 

I'll add that I scored the first fight 115-113 for Hopkins. And the second I got the same score but with Taylor winning.

I think its important to realize that Hopkins plans his fights out to simply WIN. He takes knockouts if they come but he NEVER looks for them. Taylor, for as much **** as he takes on this forum is young, he is strong, fast, has decent skills, the best formula for out working a very old fighter. I'm sure Hopkins calculated that the fight would be close, but just thought the judges would be more on his side.

Also I think in those fights Hopkins's age caught up with him a bit. IF you notice his work rate in those two fights was VERY low. Since moving up to 175 its increased quite a bit. I think if Hopkins had fought Taylor at 175 where he is now, he would have beaten him easily.

 

Cant remember now. Both were close the second less so.

How did you score it then know it all?

 

One a draw the other slightly to Taylor. Dire fights and I won't watch them agan to give more precise scores.

 

:deal You can close the thread.

 

I scored the fights:

I- 7-5 Taylor
II- 7-4-1 Taylor

 

Are you sure you're not just letting the fact you found them boring taint your opinion?

 

But think back to before the fight. Taylor was being hyped as "the next big middleweight" for a WHILE. Hopkins may have finally been a draw after getting his dues from the Trinidad or the De La Hoya fight, but I also remember Hopkins receiving a LOT of criticism for some of his moe boring fights post-Trinidad. By the time he fought Taylor I personally recall a few people saying "Well Hopkins is great, but he got his 20 title defenses, thats what he wanted, now its time for a new champion."

The first fight Hopkins started to come on in round 7 and I think took the rest of the fight (though I just remember my scores, not which rounds they won specifically). The second fight was a little more back and forth.

 

Oh look a cheerleader. Nah maybe we can try & have an adult discussion without the use of back slapping & emoticons for once eh?

 

Funny thing is I don't see why both these fights are considered so damn boring. The second fight I thought was just decent overall, there were some good moments throughout the fight. The first fight was boring at times but had good action mixed in between the boring spots. And they're both way better than some of Taylor's or Hopkins's fights..

 

I think some people just want Gatti-Ward constantly.