How did Al Haymon become so powerful?

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  1. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    by scheming and frauding his way to the top. hes like the john milton of boxing
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    What's wrong with doing his work behind the scenes?, that's the smartest thing one can do as he already proved. Why would he need the publicity when he can still earn a lot doing his work quietly behind closed doors?. Just take a look at how many stars he's advising and how many are signing with him, that's proof right there of how good he really is.

    As far as Mayweather and "bosses" are concerned, I doubt he cares if Haymon goes out talking smack as long as he continues to advise him as successfully as he has already done for years. Remember, Ellerbe talks smack in public and others in Mayweather's team and it doesn't bother him.
     
  3. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    arum doesnt have a criminal record you dumb as$ :rofl

    when was his "arrest" and "conviction"?

    :rofl
     
  4. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Cause real bad boys move in silence."
    --Kris Parker
     
  5. StGeorge

    StGeorge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nothing is wrong with it, it is just unusual in the boxing game is all, he is abit of an enigma, it is fascinating how he has gone against the grain so to speak. No one can doubt he is good, I was asking why is he so good? Not what he has achieved but how has he done it? Does he bs, is he very honest and fighter respect that etc..
     
  6. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tell them again.
     
  8. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hayman got lucky with the 2 resident incompetents at HBO,Kerry Davis and Greenberg,who didn't know their ass from grass.Both are now long gone at HBO,but they gave Hayman the keys to the cars with long term contracts.Now that smarter heads are guiding HBO and Hayman's influence is gone,he has hoodwinked Showtime by delivering Mayweather,but at what long time consequences for Showtime?
    The Dude is smart but also a snake in the grass and if you are going to shake his hand,take off your rings and watch.:tired
     
  9. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haymon actually has a tendency to stay away from long term contracts.
     
  10. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  11. Hulkamania

    Hulkamania What ya gonna do!!! Full Member

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    Me personally, I do not buy into the GBP vs. TOP RANK vs. AL HAYMON and all of that...

    None of them worrying about my bills, I can care less about theirs, but I do know that a lot of these masons, they know each other very well and just as the Democratic President and Replublican Presidents all go hand in hand to the Bohemian Groove.... same with these bunches.

    No one gets in power like that, by themselves.
     
  12. StGeorge

    StGeorge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Only on ESB
     
  13. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    Bob arum is a convicted briber right, your an *******!!
     
  14. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Haymon is something of an enigma - obviously Floyd credits him with a large part of his financial success in the last few years, and his many new signings all seem to believe Haymon will make them rich, although I fail to see how he can do this for all of them.

    I am sceptical, but at this point his clients all seem satisfied (if a little reluctant to discuss actual details) so it's difficult to say there's anything actually wrong with him or the way he does business. The cynic within me says that boxing is, and always has been a corrupt business, and when someone achieves the rapid success that Haymon has, something fishy is taking place.

    Look at it it this way, I remain open-minded towards Haymon, but will not be surprised if 2 or 3 years down the line there are those amongst his slew of recent signings who start to become dissatisfied with the way their careers are progressing. When he has a stable as large as his is becoming, and including some names who are far from being considered potential superstars, he can't make them all rich.

    Clearly there is a very real blurring of the line between the role of promoter and manager in the way Haymon does busiinss, which does call into question his legal responsibilities towards his clients - though I'm fairly sure this will be an issue he has made sure is legally (if not necessarily ethically) watertight, but unless his clients actually indicate that they are unhappy with whatever it is he does for them, this is not necessarily a problem.

    My suspiscion is that Haymon - or those allied with him - are setting themselves up to make a bid for control of the sport in the US. By signing not only the champions, but top contenders and the guys that need to be fought to become a champion or top contender Haymon is starting to put himself in a position where in order to be recognised as a top name in the sport (or at least in the prestige divisions) you almost have to go through at least one of his fighters. Taken to its ultimate conclusion this could eventually grant him an almost unprecedented role as kingmaker in the US fight scene. Is this a good or bad thing? Time will tell, I guess...Al Haymon - the Dana White of American boxing - what do you think?
     
  15. StGeorge

    StGeorge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cracking post!