The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Well we'll agree to disagree on this. I can't really imagine Cotto beating any motivated version of Duran, nor Corrales. You're certainly not going to beat Duran at his style of fighting.

I'd say at Oscar at 147 would have the best change, but even there I'd pick Duran.


BTW, all fighters are beatable with the right plan.

 

he has loss to lesser fighters, agree to disagree.

 

That may be true, but he also has wins over much better fighters. And personally I think the variable as to the losses or wins, had more to do with which version of Duran showed up, rather than the opponent. Btw, as mentioned, I'm not sure Simms is a good example, he did after all beat Barkley in 6 and he was a legit middleweight. Duran lost by split decision and most say, (even Leonard) that he was robbed. So Duran losing to middleweights such as Simms and Hagler, both in close fights, doesn't equate to losing to Cotto and Corrales by any means.

 

So how can we be sure he would go through anyone's resume undefeated, if Duran showing in peak form isn't a constant variable?

 

Eloquent way of stating the same point I've been trying to make.

 

It's true though. One thing I can say about FMJ. He takes care of his body, and comes prepared. Duran has loss to lesser fighters plenty of times. Some due to old age, but most due to not coming prepared. I'm not going to give him the nod just because some unwritten rule says I have to. I'm sure against a couple of Floyd's 45 opponents he would come unprepared, and he would lose. Which is why I give Oscar, Cotto, Corrales, and maybe even Canelo the nod. Not because their better or greater , because as far as skill, most of them couldn't hold a candle to him, but because Duran didn't always show up. And history has shown that there are times where lesser fighters beat him because he wasn't prepared.

 

Well you either have to assume the peak version shows up or he doesn't, You obviously feel he doesn't and I think he does.

But keep in mind, we're talking about a guy who had peaks and valleys after 73+ fights under his belt, not 44.

But back to the Simms example, why is he considered a crappy fighter? We're talking about a middleweight who had some pop and Duran took him to the cards and lost a split decision.

Who in Mayweather's comp even fits this bill?

So if Duran's losing to fighters that are above any weight division Mayweather's fought in, how can that be used against him such that you can conclude he would loss to these smaller fighters?

 

That's what all top predators do. Now Yall can talk your asses off about the bull**** weight draining, cherry picking and the rest of that garbage but the fact remains that everybody he took in that square circle came up a loser. It don't stop, If he choose to take Pac, Lara, or whoever the ****, the results will be the same cause the kill plan is already in effect. Now, check this out, After the top predator has killed and eaten, all the scavengers like the Jackels and the buzzards come in for the leftovers and to pick at the bones, all the time acting like they made the kill. Just like these EBS haters.:bbb

 

Not at 44 fighters there wasn't. He did go 72-1 prior to his second loss, let's see Floyd exceed this than you'd have a vaild point.

It's not overly fair to cherry pick opponents from a guy who fought until he was nearly 50 and had over 118 fights.

 

My question is, prior to SRL, who was his best win? In those 73 fights, who did he fight of merit?

I never said Sims is a crappy fighter, Im saying that he had no business losing to him. If you're an ATG, you have no business losing to certain fighters. Sims wasn't crappy, but he wasnt some world beater either.

And If Im not mistaken, the Laing fight was at Jr Middle. I just asked my uncle too, and he confirmed. He has losses that he shouldn't have. That's my point.

Cotto @154, Oscar @154, Canelo @154 > Kirkland Laing @154.

 

i know you are an alt but you realise in saying what you said that bob has come up with numerous excuses.. some of which have been absolutely pathetic

 

i agree, he should not immediately sign with arum he should be a free agent for a few months, try and get the fight with floyd made, if he cant for whatever reasons then he can just sign back with arum.. any promoter would jump to have him in their stable

 

Some weeks ago, a lot of fans had Danny garcia as the favourite to beat floyd. Today, Danny does not deserve to be in the same building with floyd. At a point " boxing analysts said broner was the next super star..... Today he is a bum. A lot of people ( myself included ) thought canelo would hurt him....
All I can say is that even if floyd were to beat pacquiao, fans would still find an excuse. If ko6 can be considered a lucky punch, then I guess that says it all.

 

no doubt about it.

 

you have poison in your mind. get your **** together.