Why did Tyson leave Rooney?

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  1. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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    I haven't heard this talked about much
     
  2. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was tired of training and preferred the party life.
     
  3. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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    He said something about how only Cus could talk to him a certain way.
     
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  4. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. kragz

    kragz 49*-0 Full Member

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    Rooney didn't like rapists too much.
     
  6. Terminator_X

    Terminator_X Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everyone around Tyson was either trying to screw him out of his money or let him down by being unprofessional, Rooney was in the latter category as he'd become an alcoholic and gambling addict which led to him being sacked. Such a shame as Rooney represented the last connection between the training methods Cus had instilled in Mike and without it he became a much less effective boxer.

    There are many "what ifs" with Tyson, what if Cus had stayed alive another 10 years, what if Kevin Rooney had stayed clean and sober...the list goes.
     
  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No one can manage the unmanageable or train the untrainable.

    I always laugh at those who point fingers at the people around Tyson -- his inept trainers, Don King, etc. -- because they invariably try to make him the victim. He's the one who chose them, chose the way he wanted to go because after a certain point he was big enough that he didn't have to listen to anything he didn't want to hear ... even when he knew those voices were right.
     
  8. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Don King persuaded Tyson to fire him... thought that was obvious.
     
  9. Thracian

    Thracian Active Member Full Member

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    Rooney wasn't an alcoholic when he was training Tyson, was he? Tyson himself says no such thing in his book and says Rooney talked himself out of the job or "fired himself."
     
  10. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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    Ya but having Cus around longer would have helped.
     
  11. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    tyson felt like he didnt need to train as hard or as often as he did when he was up and coming. after 35 plus fights and 5 or 6 world title fights and unifying the division he wanted to train on his own terms.
    another huge reason that no one has mentioned is he made one too many comments about his personal life (on his marriage to robin givens)
     
  12. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson fired Rooney because he didn't want to fight anymore, he had tons of money, but only wanted to feed the parasites around him, screw whores, blow coke up his nose, drink , and buy cars he never drove...

    Thats why he kept on going to the slammer, getting married then divorced, going in and out of rehab, and getting blown out by bums like Kevin Mcbride:yep. then went BROKE...
     
  13. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    This, partly. But partly by circumstance.

    In every interview I've seen Mike talk about it, he never regrets abandoning his original team, saying they were "slave drivers". He doesn't seem to have had a high opinion of Rooney as a trainer. I've never heard him compliment Rooney once. But it probably doesn't help that Rooney later won a $3 Million lawsuit against Mike.

    The circumstance, as Mike tells it in his book, was the death of his co-manager Jimmy Jacobs, who Mike loved and respected, but still thought was taking too much of his money. When Jacobs died, Robin Givens and her mother convinced Mike to sue his other co-manager Bill Cayton over his contract, saying that Cayton was getting too much money and other things. Mike had never liked Cayton anyway. Mike also didn't like how Rooney was talking to the press about Robin. But then when Mike's relationship with Robin collapsed, Don King was there waiting on the sidelines to swoop in and take charge of Mike's career.

    Mike was only too happy to let King take over as long as the money kept flowing in and Mike didn't have to be bothered about the details. Mike notes somewhere in the book that King was the only promoter who could deliver him a suitcase with a million dollars in cash on short notice. Maybe two thirds of Mike's book is stories about his partying, pissing away money and not being bothered about the details.
     
  14. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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    I think Don King fed him on this white slaveowners talk and said that blacks need to stick together. Maybe these businessmen were using him to an extent. However Don King was using him as much as anyone. At the end of the day Tyson was a racist and went with the black team.
     
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  15. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    jay bright was white