Opposition Analysis of the 22-0-0 Welters Leonard, Trinidad, Thurman, Maidana etc.

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  1. Heelmike

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    i think he was like 16-0 if i remember correctly
     
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  2. jas

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    http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=boxer&human_id=561186

    your completely discrediting the man who has the GOAT opposition record, thus discrediting the importance of your analysis.you said you would not even include him in the lower weights analysis.......wow.......then whats the point of this analysis if its subjected to bias
     
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  3. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We are discussing fighters who meet a certain profile (Thurman career being the basis)
    #A) 22-0-0
    #B) Fought at least once (141-147)

    Ali Raymi is 20-0-0 fought between 104-118 :roll:
     
    eltirado, Mar 20, 2014
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  4. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sergio Martinez reinvented himself since that defeat at the hands of Margarito :boxer
     
    eltirado, Mar 20, 2014
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  5. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    Correct me if I'm wrong. You started this thread to show that Thurman's opposition (he's 22-0) is not weak, right?

    I think you've made a good point.
     
    Kid Cincinnati, Mar 20, 2014
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  6. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like data to speak for itself, fans form their own opinions

    Its good to also show where he stands, as Thurman is the undefeated up and comer.

    Matchmakers/managers/boxers need to see similar lists...that way guys know they have alot more to lose if they do...As nobody wants to be in the red with Brook

    It should have a good effect :cool:

    Even guys who don't show up to win, lose that angle and have to improve their record to get paid better
     
    eltirado, Mar 20, 2014
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  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yet Maidana was only at WW for half of those fights
     
    bailey, Mar 20, 2014
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  8. eltirado

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    Strictly 22-0-0 with at least one fight inside Welter limit

    Floyd run at 22-0-0 Jr Lightweight days is :boxer will compare it to Broner later :yep

    This whole p4p bs & attraction for $ ruined the GOAT reign at 130 (shared with Arguello :boxer )
     
    eltirado, Mar 20, 2014
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  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    SRR NEVER:nono fought above 140 for all his 22-0-0 prospect run that included win over Sammy Angott the GOAT was still kicking ass in Lightweight :smoke
     
    eltirado, Mar 20, 2014
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  10. eltirado

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    22-0-0 vs 319-174 competition 1.8-1 ratio, Thurman
    22-0-0 vs 370-206 competition 1.8-1 ratio, Hearns
    22-0-0 vs 270-148 competition 1.8-1 ratio, Kyvelos
    22-0-0 vs 290-174 competition 1.7-1 ratio, Maidana
    22-0-0 vs 257-157 competition 1.7-1 ratio, Cintron
    22-0-0 vs 163-098 competition 1.6-1 ratio, Starling
    22-0-0 vs 247-152 competition 1.6-1 ratio, Carr
    22-0-0 vs 359-226 competition 1.6-1 ratio, Porter
    22-0-0 vs 234-149 competition 1.6-1 ratio, Honeyghan
    22-0-0 vs 224-148 competition 1.5-1 ratio, Benitez
    22-0-0 vs 197-135 competition 1.5-1 ratio, Forrest
    22-0-0 vs 237-186 competition 1.3-1 ratio, Purreta
    22-0-0 vs 209-192 competition 1.1-1 ratio, Paris
    22-0-0 vs 191-180 competition 1.1-1 ratio, Dario
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    eltirado, Mar 20, 2014
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  11. Super Hans

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    Most ducked man in boxing.

    Nobody wants to put their 0 on the line against The Special One. :deal
     
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  12. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have to admit I can't find any 22-0-0 from all welterweight history to outdo Kell Da Crook Brook, he earned this honor...he is in a class of his own & nobody can change history or break his record

    Brook remains the special one, the king of the deepest darkest oceans...where only the bravest daredevil divers go :bbb
     
    eltirado, Mar 21, 2014
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  13. duwdu

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    This is an excellent, well reasoned analysis thread, @eltirado, much appreciated.

    I hope to enjoy also similar ones that would be based on other weight classes.

    P34c3
     
    duwdu, Mar 21, 2014
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  14. Slick n Jewish

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    Paul Williams 186-235
     
    Slick n Jewish, Mar 21, 2014
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  15. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Paul Williams first 22-0-0 were all in Junior Middleweight & Middleweight, he has to fight at least once in Welterweight in his first 22-0-0
     
    eltirado, Mar 22, 2014
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