This man defeats Mayweather at every weight category from 135-154!

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  1. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Don't think anybody thinks that
     
  2. LACMEXAME

    LACMEXAME Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly haha. This is a guy who has trained Mayweather all his life and even he doesn't believe Mayweather would win. ROger has been asked TWICE and both times he had the same response. "it would be a tough ass fight" lol. Which means "NO, he can't beat Duran". The expression in his face says it all. And Roger is a type of guy who never hesitates to label you a BUM. He always gives an honest opinion on a bout. Following Roger for many years, it's clear he has doubts that May would beat able to handle Duran. Even after the reporter TRIED HARD to get on FLoyds side, Roger stopped him immediately and reminds him that Duran is a beast. :good
     
  3. Pusher

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    Look, I'm probably one of Money's biggest fans, always have been, always will be. Straight up, real talk. But unlike many others on here, I'm a fan not fanboy. There's a big difference between the two.

    I'm not a racist like a lot of my fellow *****s are either. As much as I love me some Money May, I won't allow personal bias to cloud my opinion. I always keep it real no matter what. I'm sorry but there's no way Money's ever beating a prime Duran. It just ain't happening. He's a great fighter, easily the second best of his era. But Duran is just on a completely different level.
     
  4. LACMEXAME

    LACMEXAME Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're not just a smart man but you keep it real!. :good
     
  5. Pusher

    Pusher New Member Full Member

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    Thank you comrade. I always call it how I see it.
     
  6. rossco666

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    He can be judged for being unprofessional but the fact Duran was not in the same condition as the first fight taints the win imo. I actually think the Leonard from the second fight vs Montreal Duran could end in a points win for Leonard. Leonard was younger, bigger and more athletic. Those tactics he employed in the second fight were perfect to frustrate Duran. Floyd cant pull that footwork off and isn't as good as Leonard or as powerful so thinking Floyd could beat Duran based on Leonard II is void.

    I thought it was Floyds' hand that was ****ed in the first Castillo fight not his shoulder. The second Castillo fight was tough for Floyd as well. Duran is 3 levels above Castillo and if it was him in the ring with Floyd instead of Castillo on those nights do you honestly think Floyd would win? He would get fainted to death and worked over. Floyd's biggest negative vs Duran is his lack of power and work rate up close. Duran was fleet of foot and would get close enogh to land on Floyd and he would sneer with contempt at Floyd's attempts to hurt him with those pot shots :deal
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When I look at Duran I see a guy who beat the 2nd greatest welterweight of all time in his prime. The best or at worst the 2nd best lightweight of all time, and a guy to took Hagler to the brink of defeat. So I guess we'll believe what we want to believe.

    The funny thing is there's enough tape on both of them to watch their styles and see what there strengths and weaknesses are, and I can tell you from the responses the vast majority of Mayweather fans couldn't be bothered doing this, because they aren't boxing fans, they're Mayweather fans. Like I said earlier Lederman and Dundee summed up a very good analysis between the two fighters and they have seen them both. Floyd hasn't shown me that he has enough power to earn Duran's respect and Duran would be coming forward throwing combinations during most of the fight, to think he's not going to land something that's going to hurt Mayweather is wishful thinking.
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Mayweather's slickness and defensive commitment are easily arguable to carry him to victory, especially at 140-154.
     
  9. LACMEXAME

    LACMEXAME Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When Leonard publicly said "I tried to take advantage of Duran" it automatically taints the win. This is why I laugh when people bring up that fight. Leonard himself admits it but the Duran haters try hard to ignore it :lol:. You always bring up great points. Same thing I've said in the past. Studying that fight is useless. Like you said VOID!
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can judge him on any fight you want, but why pick one fight of other fighter when you have their whole careers to look at? And the end of the day it boils down to styles and who brings what to the table.
     
  11. rossco666

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    Exactly :good Duran gets tagged a coward for no mas but Leonard gets a pass on the cowardly act he pulled after Montreal. Even after publicly admitting he pushed his team to getting a lesser version of Duran he seems to get a pass.
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was actually shocked to hear Leonard admit this.
     
  13. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can leave them excuses out of this, the fact is that both fighters came in at 146. Leonard just changed his game to boxing and Roberto couldn't handle it. Leonard fought his fight in the first fight and that fight was really close. A tight split decision. Leonard underestimated Duran's power,chin , and stamina. Duran underestimated Leonard's ability to change the game. Floyd's boxing, punch selection, and punch precision is better than Leonard's. Leonard is stronger and may have a better chin. If Floyd and Duran would have ever fought, whichever fighter's style dominated is the fighter that would win.
     
  14. rossco666

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    I think Leonard knew it was going to get properly exposed in the Duran movie that's getting made so he's went on cam and put his reasons out there to defend himself and try and make out he was clever in doing what he did rather as it being a cowards move. The 30 for 30 no mas doc was Leonard's defence. The way it was done was very clever and pro Leonard. The face off at the end with Leonard asking Duran what really happened during no mas was quite strange considering earlier in the doc he openly brags about devising a plan to get a lesser Duran in the ring, a Duran who had struggled to make weight really badly. Even after admitting what he did he was still saying ''I want to know why Duran quit''. Ridiculous really. At the end after the face off he forgives Duran and walks away with his arm around him like he's the better man :roll: The documentary showed just how egotistical Leonard is. Duran is at peace with his legacy and is living life and having fun, on the other hand Leonard has a chip on his shoulder and is unhappy that Duran is viewed as thee man and the greater fighter, even after no mas.
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you're telling me Floyd is better than the 2nd best welterweight of all time? When will the b.s. stop. SRL would pulverize Floyd in a fight, there's a huge, huge power difference between the two. Put it this way, if Hearns were around today, Floyd would be avoiding, not beating him.