This man defeats Mayweather at every weight category from 135-154!

It's been proven far from an excuse :deal It is seen as a FACT Duran in the second fight was not the same as the first. I'm not saying Duran would have beat SRL if he was in Montreal condition, I'm saying it was not the same Duran physically and mentally and it was a contributing factor to no mas. I feel Leonard tactics in the second fight would have still frustrated the nuts off the best version Duran could be.
Leonard was a natural welter and only second to SRR as the divisions greatest. Leonard is a top 15 ATG. Please don't compare Floyd with the top tier ATG SRL when addressing me. I'm not buying that bull****.

I agree with your last point regarding Duran vs Mayweather but I feel prime Duran, especially at lightweight beats any version of Mayweather at lightweight. At the higher weights Duran was hit and miss so there's versions of Duran Floyd could frustrate the **** out of. His lack of power is what leads me to believe he would still struggle to beat poorer versions of Duran.
Anyway Floyd would never agree to fight Duran :deal

 

Open question to everyone.

How did Kirkland beat Duran?

Try to keep your response "excuse-free" please.

Thank you.

 

The thing that loses this fight for msyweather is he just dont have the strenth of a suger ray leonard. Leonard was 5 10 and much stronger than mayweather . He had a hard time keeping duran off him . I dont think mayweather is as good as leonard was on the inside . And hes not quite as fast as ray was either. This is big weakness against a prime duran.

 

Duran by late ko or unanimous but close decision

 

So, SRL put together a documentary defense 30+ years after the fact to 'cover up' his 'cowardice' that was about to be exposed by a Duran biopic? You really believe that?

Like I said, it is useless arguing with the Duran dead-enders. This is Pacland level of delusion here. :verysad

 

duran lost to all the atgs of his era like oscar did, but you get excuses ad nausem that duran wasnt the same fighter, fight to fight.

he won a close fight with leaonard and quit in the rematch! never DEFENDED a title he won outside of 135, just like pacquaio, notice the similiarity in this category of thier careers.

your spot on bro, duran is a good fighter won titles in four weight classes dominated 135 for 7 years, I havehim 37 all time. and number 4 at 135 all-time.

 

Leonard tries to convince the audience that a dodgy cowardly act is actually a ingenious tactical move. He tells the audience that what he did was great tactics but at the same time ridicules Duran and wants answers for the quit when he knows fine well his tactical ingenious move played a huge part in no mas. I think that doc had a dodgy side to it , yes.

Pacland level delusion is on par with ***** and Klitard level delusion :deal Duran is legit

 

Would love to see where you rank Floyd compared to Duran

 

your not even man enough to give leonard credit for making duran quit, but you readily take credit from leonard in losing the first fight.

typical duran-dead-head

 

Why did Duran quit?

Why do we still get BS answers 30 plus years later?

And you trying to call Leonard dodgy?

 

But guess what Rossco? Karma is a *****! That's why Leonard is not satisfied with his "win" to this day. He's still asking Duran why he quit ha. It's very surprising that Leonard would even think about doing something like that. I'd figure that a competitive guy like him would want to avenge his loss vs THE BEST DURAN but instead wanted to take advantage of him. That's strange. It backfired though ha. To this day, Leonard knows deep down inside he has never beat Duran at his best.

 

Being strong isnt the only to keep someone off you.

Floyd is a master at dictating the pace and the distance the fight is fought at. He decides when and where the exchanges will be.

SRL has never been hard to find.

 

at which weight class?
130 -floyd atg top three best ever at the weight
135-duran atg top five best ever at 135
140- floyd actually won a title at the weight duran did not.
147 -floyd- not only captured the lineal title but has defended it 6 titmes. duran was not able to make even one defense, losing in his first title defense in disgusting fashion sugar ray leonard.
154- floyd- defeated much higher ranked fighters at 154 then duran. first fighter from 130 to unify titles at 154, duran failed in his attempt to unify at 154 when he lost to hearns.
160- duran- defeated barkely for wbc title at 160 was not the lineal chanp at 160. if floyd dfeated cotto martinez winner at 160 then he would surpass duran at 160.

so after tallying the divisions we have floyd 4 duran 2. floyd can still add on to his legacy by unifying with maidana at 147. he would be the first fighter to come from 130 to 147 and unify titles at two different weight classes at the same time. duran could never do that.

 

Read my earlier posts, ******. I have openly said Leonards tactics were a factor in the quit. Just like his tactics were a factor in him losing in Montreal. If Duran was in Montreal shape mind and body for the second fight no way he quits, I am certain of that. Both those guy's were so evenly matched at that time at their best. Duran being the smaller man and older man makes his win more impressive, especially since he was out of shape in the second fight. It's why Leonard is butt hurt over it. He hates the fact Duran is greater than him p4p :yep

 

Beautifully said. Even though it's well documented that Duran was clearly not prepared (Leonard himself admits), all you needed to do is WATCH the fight. Duran's body shape and lack of energy is CLEAR AS DAYLIGHT. Leonard himself has made so many comments about that fight that states the same. I remember him saying "You can tell a lot from looking at a fighters eyes and that day, you can tell Duran didn't want to be there. He didn't have the same fire" THIS IS FACTUAL QUOTE FROM LEONARD. And I think it's also fair to state that this DOES NOT mean that Duran would have won that night. Leonard was a great boxer who was ascending, while Duran was leaving his prime. Leonard was GREAT and could have won, even with a FULL Duran. But the fact remain. That was not the best Duran.