This man defeats Mayweather at every weight category from 135-154!

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  1. LACMEXAME

    LACMEXAME Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He did give him credit. He's just not going to lick his balls like you, especially after Leonard ADMITS trying to take advantage of Duran ha. You should be embarrassed to even make those claims after knowing this.
     
  2. rossco666

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    Duran quit because he was being clowned by Leonard and he couldn't do anything about it. The fight was still quite close at the time of the quit if you actually watched the fight.

    Leonard and his team have openly admitted to dodgy tactics, so yes, Leonard is dodgy and is a bit of a hated character in boxing for his dodgy tactics, and not just vs Duran :deal
     
  3. LACMEXAME

    LACMEXAME Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly. Duran said it himself. "Leonard was clowning me because he knew I had nothing left to give"

    Duran knew he was not going to win the fight. He knew he wasn't prepared to win so he basically handed him the W. He took the money and booked it lol. Yes it was pathetic to be honest. Duran should have just finished the fight but after knowing Duran tried to take advantage of Duran, I don't feel too bad lol.
     
  4. rossco666

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    :deal
    So you dont take into account the fact Duran competed in a far tougher era and fought far better fighters than Floyd? At lightweight beating Buchanan and De Jesus tops Castillo and Corrales by a mile. Duran stepped out of his natural weight after 70 odd fights and beat the second best welter of all time in his prime topping all the title wins Floyd has had in his whole career. Duran was the first and only to go 15 with prime Hagler in a title fight and was way smaller and way past his prime at the time, running him very close. If it was 12 rounds Duran would have beat Hagler. That lose is probably greater than any of Floyds wins, **** Floyds titles wins, they dont mean ****. Haglers probably the greatest middle of all time, yet you *****s jizz your load at Floyd schooling the overrated Alvarez :lol: Duran beating Barkley is like Floyd beating GGG but better since Barkley just kod Tommy ****ing Hearns :hi:
    The 0 and title defences dont bring about true greatness its who you fight and how you compete that counts and that fact is the main reason why Duran is considered a top tier ATG. MAYWEATHER HAS NEVER FOUGHT A GREAT FIGHTER IN THEIR PRIME :deal
     
  5. rossco666

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    Spot on :deal
     
  6. rossco666

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    Spot on again :deal
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you know anything at all about that fight?

    Do you even know the score?

    have you ever seen Kirkland fight and do you know anything at all about him.

    Please Keep your answer b.s. free.

    Thank-you.
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Have you seen the documentary?

    One thing about Floyd fans that ****ing annoys the hell out of me is they don't even bother to investigate or watch anything related to the discussion. If you did see the documentary you'd know first hand he said he knew Duran was partying and out of shape and instructed his promoter to make the fight ASAP. As to why he admitted this, rossco was merely speculating on a reason why. Fact is we don't know why he would admit such a thing.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with this. I don't make excusses either way, Duran won the first fight and lost the second and third fights. End of story.
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Most knowledgeable boxing historians have Duran firmly in the top 10. Obviously you don't fall into that category. But let me guess. You have Mayweather rated higher than him. :rofl
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Have you seen the ****ing documentary we're talking about??

    Leonard ADMITTED he wanted to get Duran back into the ring ASAP because he knew he was partying after his victory. This isn't speculation, the man said it himself.

    That aside, I still give Leonard credit for the win, but don't make it sound like this stuffs being made up, because it's not.
     
  12. Manfred

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    Every fighter in the world takes whatever advantage they can get to win a fight. As long as it's not illegal then it's fair because it's part of the game. As a matter of fact it's part of life. If Duran didn't feel he was ready then it was up to him to set the fight back until he was. Don't try and make Leonard look like he did something wrong. Duran stepped his ass into that ring and got out boxed and quit like a *****. You gents act like he beat Leonard's ass that first fight. That's not true. He won the fight but that wasn't no picnic. It was a hard ass fight for both fighters and a very close split decision. :bbb
     
  13. Sweet Jones

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    Of course I saw the documentary, lame.

    But it doesn't change the simple facts that:

    1) No one forced Duran to allow himself to get in such awful shape
    2) No one put a gun to Duran's head and forced him to take that rematch in a timeframe that he, now the WW champ of the world, was uncomfortable with
    3) Duran's own management team has said they took the fight to cash him out due to fear of him losing to a lesser fighter
    4)Duran would use the same excuse (too much weight loss) in subsequent losses to Benitez and Laing and listless performances against Gonzalez and Batten.

    You act like catching Duran out of shape was some great 'trick' by Leonard. But the reality is, Duran used that as the EXCUSE (partying, being out of shape, indifference) for EVERY loss and mediocre performance he had after Montreal until the Hagler fight.

    So what was Leonard to do? You think he should have waited for a guy with a history of ballooning up between fights to suddenly show some self discipline? When exactly, was Duran going to be ready for the rematch? He never even tried to make the Welterweight limit again.

    You Duran dead-enders need to stop. The man is an unquestioned ATG. But the excuse making some of you guys use to gloss over some of his imperfections is childish. Y'all act like you just found out there was no Easter Bunny. :verysad
     
  14. RafaelGonzal

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    Duran at times was his own worst enemy. He simply loved to eat, this goes back to being a poor kid from Panama, who had to get up at 5am to shine shoes and sell newspapers to eat. Once the big time arrived the money poured in. It was literally the best of times; let the good times roll. Duran would balloon up to 200 pounds. When he kicked leonards ass in effect producing one of boxings greatest victories, Duran became a hero in every latin Community the world over. All doors were open, the town wide open: wine, woman and song. The euphoria reverberated not only in Panama where he became an instant God but anywhere where Spanish is spoken. The average gimp around here, has no concept of what that kind of adulation is like. Duran was on a party for months and Leonard got wind of it. And so his plan was to offer Duran millions to get him back in the ring as quickly as possible not letting him get the proper amount of time to cut weight or train properly, meanwhile Leonard was in the gym every day and it worked. The shadow of Duran showed up and Leonard proceeded to fuk around and run, Duran knew he had gotten fuked and the anger made him say enough fuk this and that's the real story. Leonard never felt satisfied with the victory as he knows the **** he pulled and it haunts him until today a lot more than no mas haunts Duran. Go look at the special documentary leonard made on the fight.
     
  15. HolyCityBully

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    Duran wasnt the first or the last fighter to get clowned.

    He also wasnt the first or last fighter to know he didnt have what it takes to win on that particular night.

    Most fighters find the guts and pride to gut it out until the end instead of walking out on their opponent.

    Why couldnt Duran do this?

    Im betting he just didnt want to give Leonard the satisfaction of beating him.