This man defeats Mayweather at every weight category from 135-154!

He didnt answer because he cant.

Its ridiculous.

They would rather play little kids trolling game then accept the fact that Duran is not unbeatable.

Duran had flaws like any other boxer out there.

 

So does Mayweather, what's your point?

 

Sweet Jones, that documentary shows what an amazing fight the first fight was and how intense Duran was. Funny to get Tyson's perspective on it, he seems like a huge fan of both. Not sure how anyone can watch this and think Floyd could beat either of these guys, but whatever.

The comments from 31:00-34:30 make it very clear that Duran was forced to take the rematch under conditions he never would have accepted had he been in control of the agenda. Bob Arum said it, Leonard himself said he heard Duran was partying and wanted him back in the ring ASAP, and someone else said Duran's manager would make Duran take the fight. It's pretty clear if you review these 3:30 minutes.

Also ask yourself another question. Why would Duran, would was loved and admired and the champion risk all that if he didn't have to. If he could have waited another 6 months or a year to get back in shape, don't you think he would have?

 

Wow... dude maybe if you stopped trolling for a second you would see the point.

Duran had flaws and in his losses you could see those flaws being exploited.

IMHO, Floyd has the skills to exploit those flaws.

Problem is, if you keep pretending that those losses dont exist, we will never get to the part of discussing his flaws.

 

Where we disagree is that I don't think Floyd can expose those flaws. I don't think he could handle anything Duran brings to the table. What in the first Leonard - Duran fight and tell me how Floyd wins?

 

Duran will beat floyd like a redheaded step child

 

Why would I take just ONE fight to judge how Floyd would do against Duran?

This is ridiculous.

If you were a scout, judging athletes, would you make your entire assessment based on just ONE game/fight?

Im watching Duran-Leonard I, and Im realizing the same thing Leonard obviously did. Which is that he let Duran fight his usual fight, high volume, face to face, give and take type of fight. Instead of taking Duran's pressure away from him, he kept responding with his own pressure. Not good.

Leonard realized that if he put distance between them, refused to exchange constantly, not let Duran get in a rhythm, use his jab alot, and dictate the pace of the fight... he would fare better. Which he did.

Those are all things Floyd is in fact great at.

 

i thinkl roy and bhop have close fights but beat hagler at 160 and ray vs floyd at 147 would be the marquee. sweet pea vs duran at 135 i got sweet pea./

 

Of course roy and hopkins would beat leonard and duran they are much bigger.

 

Whitiker . Humm duran would prob ko. Because he likes to fight a lil more than mayweather.

 

Agreed.

Did you see the part where Tyson said you can never trust a dog who quits on you?

I've watched that portion numerous times and, respectfully, nothing in that segment supports this statement that YOU made earlier:

Simply put, you are making a huge leap here that is not supported at all by anything in that documentary. Nor can you find any other source that would make that claim.

What those 3:30 minutes show is exactly what I said. Leonard desperately wanted the rematch because of his pride, not because of power play due to Duran's weight. Again, every Duran fan knows of his James Toney-esque history of weight struggles going back to making LW. It was one of the most open secrets in boxing. an (allegedly) 'unprepared' Duran put the money above legacy.

I have no idea. You don't either.

You are asking me to get inside the head of a man who actually quit on himself and his fans in the ring and 30 years later is still blaming stomach cramps, diuretics, sore arms, voodoo, and hot steaks-cold water.

That's his cross to bear.

What I do know is that Duran ain't a puppy. He's a grown man who could simply said 'NO'. Other fighters in the same situation have done so.

And as 'No mas' proved, the consequences for selling out can be unforgiving.

 

You really don't understand boxing do you? Do you know what the duties of a manager and promoters are? Guess what, their jobs are to make fights. The boxers job is to fight whenever and whoever their manager tells them to.

And if you didn't get out of it what I said from 31:00-34:30 then one of us has comprehension problems, cause Arum spelled it out, very clearly when he said that fight was forced upon Duran. Leonard very clearly said he wanted a rematch ASAP because he knew Duran was partying in New York and had gained 30-40lbs. I don't really know how you can dispute this when it's black and white.

 

:deal

 

Why do folk miss the true point of this dreadfully biased no mas shyte video, It's all ABOUT LEONARD'S EGO!! The whole programme was edited in such a way as to make SRL look the poor victim of an injustice, absolute rubbish, 1st) just look at the dreadful aspersions that SRL is casting out onto Duran with regard to the hammering he got in Montreal, now he's attempting to undermine that with the fact that Duran had Panama Lewis in his corner. Panama Lewis had ZIP to do with the Duran camp, he was a leech, a hanger on, just another cronie in Duran's entourage, but the SRL fanboy who concocted the travesty slips it in with SRL's blessing.

2) It showed some geezar picking up a rubber chicken of the floor just after the end of the clip of Duran leaving the after fight presser. THE REAL TRUTH HERE is that the chicken was thrown at Leonard by Tommy Hearns who challenged Leonard at SRL's after fight presser & SRL refused to fight Tommy, stating that "When Tommy has beaten someone of the Calibre of a Roberto Duran then he'll fight him" so Hearns threw the Rubber chicken at him. But with this shocking agenda editing this was left out!

The crux of this travesty of a programme was all down to the fact that SRL has never go over the fact that he had his arse handed to him in MontreaL, He was beaten by the better man, the better boxer, older/smaller/slower & SRL got DONE by the better man when both met on a level playing field!!

SRL knows that Duran has this movie coming out so he goes about hoping to destroy it in advance, this man's ego is stratospheric, he's a real mean nasty disingenuous ******* of a man, all the false bonhomie & cheesy smiles, wistful confusion on his face as if trying to solve a puzzle that in fact he created himself!

I thought with age I'd mellowed towards him, but after watching that 30/30 I was right all along, he is a Kunt of a human being, He didn't get the handle of "The Ego Maniacs Ego Maniac" for nothing, always twisting & turning. I'm not defending Duran in the least, but SRL has never stopped trying to undermine Duran, he just can't accept or will accept he got battered by Duran, after that Montreal fight SRL's management went into overdrive by way of employing any & all means albeit fair or fowl to seek an advantage beyond what can be construed as a level playing field!

SRL hates the fact that out of the fab 4 he rates as FORTH in popularity, He's respected 100% for being the warrior that he is...but...that don't mean to say you have to like him. To many machinations, smoke & mirrors with SRL. That programme just showed you what a devious, vicious, duplicitous ******* of a man he still is & always has been, the true & ultimate BULLY! Vicious green with envy nasty SOB.

Next time I pray that Roberto smacks the kunt, I got the impression at the very end that Duran may have said to Leonard, lets sort this out now......cue...cut & edit out!

It's common knowlage that Team Leonard stated that if the fight did not go on in November instead of the January date Duran's camp wanted, then SRL would go after Cuevas instead & Don King was having none of that, not when $9MILLION was up for grabs............ Do yer research you idle ****.