This man defeats Mayweather at every weight category from 135-154!

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  1. LACMEXAME

    LACMEXAME Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you're saying Leonard lied lol??

    My source is Leonard!

    Your source is your opinion.

    You almost convinced me :patsch
     
  2. LACMEXAME

    LACMEXAME Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vanboxing this is not the only documentary about this. There's more on youtube that are in Spanish, if you speak it. Duran's camp was even thinking of postponing the fight because of Duran's troubles to get in boxing shape. Check it out if you want. Ray Arcel comes out talking that they wanted to postpone the fight but couldn't because too much money was involved.
     
  3. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You mean other than that time he tried to drag junior WW Aaron Pryor up to a 150 catch weight fight?
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And that fight occurred when again?
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Btw, for the most part, the managers and promoters decide who the fighters fight, of course there are some exceptions such as Mayweather, SRL, and ODH, but even Tyson marched to the drum of King.

    Basically these fighters use their economic clout to dictate terms. That's why Hagler had to fight in a ring so big, wore the gloves of SRL choosing and never got a rematch. That's also why Duran had to take the second fight when he did.

    I think SRL is a magnificent fighter, in fact the only reason I rate Duran higher than SRL is because of the shortness of Leonard's career relative to Duran's. But if there's one knock I have against him it's this.

    And that's why Mayweather cherry picks his opponents and has avoided Pac like the plague and because he has the economic clout and even brags about it, I hold him primarily response for this fight not occurring.

    But the fact you're even aware of the Duran-Pryor fight is aces in my book, at least you know some history.
     
  6. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes Mayweather the same man that lost his "0" to the slow Castillo .

    Yes Mayweather the same man who had problems and could not figure out Judah early and even got knocked down . The same Judah who went on to get pounded out and knocked out By Miguel in an easy fight .

    You got to be willing to trade with Williams and risk getting stopped by him to beat him . Because his hands never stop moving so you have no choice because you are without a doubt are going to get hit . Floyd would not fight the same way Quintana did that night . Hes just not built that way . He would be overwhelmed by Williams workrate and lose badly . It wont even be a close fight .

    Quintana was willing to get rocked to land his own which worked for him in the first fight by also got him out of there in only 1 rnd in the rematch .
     
  7. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont know .

    But The Punisher badly outworks Floyd , that i do know .
     
  8. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Floyd still won those fights though....
     
  9. Brandish

    Brandish Active Member Full Member

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    if laing kicked durans but then williams would dust him..
     
  10. Brandish

    Brandish Active Member Full Member

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    your talking to a duran dead head winning doesnt matter unless duran is winning. and lets look at roberto duran.

    7 year reign at 135 12 title defenses. floyd 5 year reign at 130 8 title defenses

    and thats where the compariosn ends. floyd is lineal simultaneously duran could not do that and failed when he went on that epic losing streak from 1980-1984 when he finally won a title at 154 from davey moore.

    in that 4 year span duran lost to leaonard, benitez, laing, hagler, and hearns.
     
  11. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Duran is a top 10 atg. Floyd is a top 30 atg. And I think H2H, Duran is better

    at 154, Floyd wins is all I'm saying
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

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    I'm almost saying the same thing except at 154 I think it's a pickem fight. Certainly if the version of Duran who showed up against Kirkland enters the ring, Mayweather wins easily, but if the Duran who fought Moore shows up, I'd give the edge to Duran.

    Obviously at 160 the edge also goes to Duran.

    One thing is true, Duran wasn't consistent at 154 but then again he had close to 80 fights by this time, not 45.
     
  13. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree, if Duran hadn't got away the low blows, Buchanan was a match for Duran, as good as he was he's not on the same planet as Money.
    I just don't se Roberto winning, as hard, and good as he was.
     
  14. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're kidding or trolling right?
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

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    A plausible argument can be made for Mayweather perhaps beating Duran at 154, but he certainly isn't beating Duran at 135.

    This is what Wikipedia says:


    In 2002, he was chosen by The Ring to be the 5th greatest fighter of the last 80 years.[2] Bert Sugar rates him as the 8th greatest fighter of all-time and the Associated Press voted Duran as the #1 lightweight of the 20th century.[3] Many even consider him the greatest lightweight of all time.

    Overall, Durán made twelve successful defenses of his title (eleven coming by knock out) and amassed a record of 62-1, his last defense coming in 1978 where Durán fought a third bout with De Jesus, a unification match where Durán once again knocked out De Jesus and captured his WBC Lightweight Championship

    And you think Mayweather's beating him at that weight???

    You guys need to keep it real.