Cus d'Amato was an exile from boxing?

there is nothing wrong with being gay. the dude calling for mods is a ---ist fool:deal

 

I've followed the Tyson saga pretty much from the beginning, but never came across any evidence of this.

Are you saying this just because Jacobs came to live at Cus' house ?

 

if u followed it, u would of known he was. cus was supposedly gay himself. whats wrong with being gay?

 

They shared an apartment in NYC for about 10 years when Cus had the Gramercy Gym. I think it was when Jacobs was traveling a lot as a handball champion. It's nothing.

Cus was very secretive and paranoid. Plus he was very unconventional when it came to boxing. He would use hypnotists, claim he had mind control, stuff like that. The Tyson book goes into this a lot.

You might like this link. http://www.tysontalk.com/article495.html

You remind me of a guy who used to post here named OnePunchKO (e).

 

cus spoke out against corruptioni a lot.

 

I do not care. Cus was one of the great trainers................

 

You remind me of these gays dudes who see gayness in just about everything they come across.

There's nothing wrong about being gay ( although it's kind of unlucky); but the evidence of Jacobs being gay still eludes me.

 

wrong page folks.

 

cus testified before congress i believe on the corruption in boxing. his testimony...as well as the testimony of a few others lead to the fall of the IBC and the mafia connection to boxing. he sold his gym for $1 and fled to upstate ny.

 

Tommy Gallagher on D'Amato:

http://www.thesweetscience.com/most-popular/4397-tommy-gallagher-all-things-must-pass

 

"Undisputed Truth" by Mike Tyson. Mike's autobiography. It came out late last year. It has maybe three chapters on Cus, but mentions him often throughout. Unfortunately, there is no index. This is the best place to start.


Jimmy Jacobs was a disciple of D'Amato's also. This is an interesting interview and a lot of what he says here reflects Cus's influence.

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There appears to be only one biography of Cus, which also came out last year, called "Confusing the Enemy". Unfortunately it is a "biographical novel", so it is impossible to know what is true and what isn't without knowing the sources. Even worse, while some of the sources are listed in the appendix, many of the remaining sources are not listed at all, because the author says he interviewed 80 people for the book, many of whom did not want their names used. Also the author admits he couldn't come up with enough facts to actually write a proper biography, hence the reason he wrote a novel instead.

It's not a bad book, but it says surprisingly little about actual fighting, Cus's motivational philosophy or Cus's personal life. But it does take you through a lot of the boxing politics and his dealings with the mob. Contrary to what some people say, according to the book Cus did not have a problem dealing with mobsters or sharing profits with them. He had a problem with mobsters taking too much of the profits, having too much control or outright stealing his fighters.

The gym of Tommy Gallagher's they mention in the article must be the gym that John Garfield/Joe Rein was also involved in. He talked about it a lot here.

 

I have no idea if Cus was actually a homo***ual, but doubts only because he was SO WEIRD that all the signs of homo***ual tendencies might be just weird ****. Like Michael Jackson - maybe not a pedo, just freaking weird.

Cus liked to sleep in the same bed as Floyd Patterson. He was seen by a writer rubbing his feet against Patterson's while they lay down together. That's not se*x or anything, but it's hardly usual for hetero-male masculine boxing culture.

Cus was a weird man. A legend, yes, but probably sick in the head. A nut, an extremist.

As for his "battle" against the mafia in boxing ... that was a bull**** myth he created or allowed others to construe. He avoided putting Patterson in with the top American challengers probably because he didn't want to risk losing the title - not because of Carbo and Blinky and the IBC. It was other managers who battled against the IBC. Cus was actually linked to some very unsavoury gamblers, loansharks and gangsters himself, and they took large slices from the promotions.

Cus D'Amato possibly "exiled" himself from boxing, or did things so irregular the NYSAC took his license, I don't know.
I do know that he had a nice little thing going up there in the Catskills, getting homeless, juvenile criminal, and troubled boys sent up there by friendly juveniles courts to live with him and his lady friend. He had a steady supply of material to look for potential championship-talent.
Eventually he got himself a Mike Tyson.
And he had a few good assistant trainers too.

It takes some doing, producing TWO heavyweight champions from scratch. Whatever he was, Cus probably was some sort of genius.

 

I have always thought that Cus was rather odd. I have read a bunch about Tyson and people that were at Catskill. The recent Tyson book really make Cus sound like a peculiar man, and I do remember Teddy Atlas also having a somewhat odd tone when he wrote about the relationships Cus had with his fighters.

I can say that prior to reading this thread, I had often wondered if Cus was a homo***ual, but this really is the first time I have looked at various sources and given it any thought.

Also, who is "Fat Tony"? He apparently saved Cus' life? That whole Tomm Gallagher article is interesting.

Did Rooney or Atlas ever go into more of this???