The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

No. Not even if he viciously ko's Timmy.

 

prime for prime and career-wise of today's boxers the best is Roy Jones followed by Bernard Hopkins

 

Much more deserving of it than either of the Klitschkos

 

******.. :nono

 

you dont know **** about boxing.. :nono

 

Only in a perfect world.. Y'all still complain about a 37 year old man not fighting the best prime fighters in or around his weight class.. They said a 23 year old Alvarez was too young and weight drained by 2 pounds (one pound if you count that he was 153 the fight before).. I can't imagine what the masses would say if he loses.. You would never hear the end if it...

 

YOU are the *******, Genius...

 

I was 7. And absolutely. boxing isn't complicated. not for viewers, more for the fighters.

My little brother started watching football last year, and he can tell me every position. Knows what each is for, gametimes, and started cursing at the TV when Peyton stunk it up

"Wow Peyton. You don't deserve that money you're getting. And to think people say he's better than Brady"

He's 8.

 

That NiccaMarvin is on a roll. Yall can't hold him today.:yep

 

I have him around 8 or 9 on my list.

 

whats with this obsession around here of telling people they "dont know **** about boxing"?

 

is this even news?

pedjr's biggest win was trex corrales.

enough said.

pac = 8 div champ, fotd
= generational talent.

pedjr = 15yrs of boxing, bronze. fail.
= good salesman, **** resume.

 

cause they Dont...:huh

 

I double-checked the Ring P4P list. Floyd, Ward and Bradley as #1-3 are pretty rock solid. You can't really debate those three much. If you subscribe to the philosophy that the P4P list should be a rolling list that takes a snapshot of the last two years, I can understand an argument having Bradley even higher. Whether you agree with the decisions or not, beating two P4P'ers in three fights is probably the best accomplishment over the last two years of any boxer on this list.

I can also see Rigo being ranked as high as #4 just based on his comprehensive defeat of Donaire. It's probably the single best performance of all the fighters on this list. But I also won't object to people wanting to see him against a wider variety of top fighters first.

I can see Marquez as high as #4 and as low as #6, which is sandwiched between Bradley and Pacquiao. I am not against Wlad being in that general mix as well because he's been so dominant, even if his competition isn't that great. I think you can make the P4P list by either having a spectacular win (Rigondeaux) or having a string of absolute dominant wins (Wlad).

Sergio I'm torn over. He did not look like a P4P fighter in his last fight, and I think the only reason he remained on the list is because of his nice reserve of solid wins prior to that. But if you're of the "rolling two year" philosophy, he has the biggest case against him remaining on the P4P list. This goes beyond Murray - for the past few fights Sergio has looked very vulnerable and won on sheer grit.

I would put Pacquiao ahead of Sergio. Scoring aside, he looked dominant against Bradley, and he was performing well against Marquez. Sure he lost them both, but they're higher caliber fighters than, say, Murray or Chavez.

Rigo is an interesting case. Going by pure eye test and his performance against Donaire, he LOOKS every bit as skilled as Mayweather and Ward, and based on the eye test, should be ranked as high as #4. But I can understand Ring's #8 ranking, to account for the possibility that he just benefited from a favourable stylistic match-up and an under-prepared Donaire.

Alvarez was understandably wiped out by Mayweather, which was supposed to happen. But I question why he's on the P4P list at all. His best win was Trout, who was never on the P4P list himself. And Froch's performance against Groves also raises serious question marks. I'd actually put Garcia higher than either. Garcia's last opponent is better than Groves.

I'd put Pacquiao anywhere between 6-8, but DEFINITELY still in the top 10.

 

For me:

1. Floyd
2. Ward
3. Bradley
4. Rigondeaux
5. Marquez
6. Wlad
7. Pacquiao
8. Sergio
9. Danny Garcia
10. GGG

Honorable mentions: Mikey Garcia, Adonis Stevenson, Nonito Donaire. I wouldn't object to any of these guys being interchanged with any of the guys from 8-10.