My P4P

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Up to you mate

 

Gotta love that ****

Where the **** do these people find this forum? Fantastic

 

Lol winfella why not get in the cage with willie pep lol please put him in a omaplata and dont let go when he taps

 

I could never hit anybody like that mate, its obvious the poor kid is struggling with a condition.

 

you dont have to hit him just a double leg then head and arm triangle till he goes to zzzzzz

 

So it's Wlad's fault he has size attributes that's like saying Mayweather only dominates because of his defense, GGG because of his power. Wlad is p4p fighter and a top 5 one at that. To your point on Martinez did you miss the other 11 rounds that Sergio dominated JCC JR for got knocked down it happens he still dominated him. He beat Murray IMO close fighter closer than you'd expect but he was injured facing a top level MW and still won. Martinez is still clearly a staple of the p4p GGG seems special but he hasn't beating anything great yet knocking out C level opponents doesn't get you a spot on a p4p list.

 

Klitschko is an upright 1-2 fighter, never throws hooks, rarely throws uppercuts, rarely doubles up his jab, never throws a 4 punch 2 phase combination, doesn't punch to the body, the list goes on ………..

He's a supreme athlete who can box a little, he's not a stand out P4P fighter in my mind, he has dominated the HW division because he is athletically gifted and incredibly dedicated to his craft. He's a great champion, but he's not one of the best fighters on the planet IMHO.

Martinez is waining and Murray dropped him 3 times, for me his inactivity coupled with the Murray loss see's him fall outside the top 10. He'll beat Cotto if he has anything left.

Golovkin has all the momentum and all the tangibles, power, accuracy, shot selection, distance awareness, solid defence, and so on ……… he would obliterate Sergio with little fuss.

Terrible comparison on Mayweather and Klitschko by the way :deal

 

It's your list but how can you have Danny Garcia and Saul Alvaraz in the Top 10?

The rest i would pretty much agree on, even Wladimir deserves being in the Top 10 seeing as he's been a dominant World Champion since 2006. I'd still have both Bhops and JMM in the Top 10 despite fairly recent losses especually in JMM's case but neither were totally outclassed or knocked out in those fights.

1. FLoyd Mayweather
2. Andre Ward
3. Guillermo Rigondeaux
4. Tim Bradley
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Sergio Martinez
8. Bernard Hopkins
9. Juan Manuel Marquez
10. Mikey Garcia

 

1. Floyd Mayweather jr
2. Andre Ward
3. Tim Bradley
4. Guillermo Rigondeaux
5. Sergio Martinez
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Juan Manuel Marquez
8. Manny Pacquiao
9. Bernard Hopkins
10. Danny Garcia

 

Floyd
Ward
Bradley
Wladimir
Rigondeaux
Marquez
Martinez
Pacquiao
M Garcia
Number 10 is between a few fighters

 

Floyd
Ward
Rigo
Bradley
Marquez
Wlad
Pacquiao
Mikey Garcia
Donaire
Martinez


H2H pound for pound obviously GGG would be in there, but he just hasn't had the 'fights' yet to put him in the top 10.

 

You have to go on what the fighters achieved with P4P lists because the proof is there that way. It's all about the opposition, results and moving up weight divisions etc.
Golovkin is a great fighter, but you can't have him on the list especially as high as that when he has only beat one top 10 fighter in his division.

 

1. Lee Selby
2. Nathan Cleverly
3. Enzo Maccrinelli
4. Gary Buckland
5. Gavin Rees
6. Mitch Buckland
7. Floyd Mayweather
8. Joe Calzaghe
9. Liam Williams
10. Chris Jenkins

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