So Wladamir Klitschko is fighting a #38 ranked boxer to duck Pulev

Because he has fought Wach Pianeta etc this just adds to his **** list

and its for the WBO title you mean? snce the excuse from Wlad's fans are "well hes a mando" :conf

how did he and boytsov leap over all the other guys anyways

 

-And the rightful #1 contender Povetkin just last fall and Tony Thompson who is still hanging around and beating other contenders. .

-No, Wlad will be defending all of his titles and standing as the HW King.

-Same ways most contenders get ranked these days. What seperates Leapai from Stiverne? Stiverne beat a a bottom top 10 RING contender in Arreola. Leapi beat a bottom top 10 RING contender in Boystov. Has Arreola done more than Boystov? Both built up their records by knocking out journeyman, other prospects, and gatekeepers. What did Leapai and Stiverne do prior to their big wins? Beat journeyman, gatekeepers, get knocked out by a not well regarded fringe contender.

 

What aren't you getting? No one gives one fcuk about the WBO belt. why isn't he fighting Pulev who has been his mandatory for longer?

Lepai has a world ranking of 29. Boystov has a world ranking of 55.

How does Boystov get to be #1 by the WBO? Beating Boystov doesn't earn you ANYTHING. This guy pulled out of fights with Fury and Chisora yet still skipped them up the WBO rankings.

Its just more corrupt K2 tactics to save Wlad from tough fights.

 

If Wlad doesn't fight Pulev in 2014 it's a clear duck.

 

I dont really go in for all this lineal stuff. Its impossible to ascertain. Lewis was the last of a long line of "lineal" champs and he retired on a win, so its all pretty academic.

Hes the best HW in the world now and has been for a number of years, and no one can dispute that.

Im not a Klitschko hater. I just dont think that he should be fighting guys like Leapai.(or Mormeck, Pianeta or Wach)

If some journeyman managed to become mandatory for Floyd or Ward and they decided to fight him to keep the belt,Id be saying the same thing.

 

-Word is a Pulev fight will draw better and will go down in an outdoor arena this summer/fall.

-Boystov had a RING ranking of #8

-I've just addressed this.

-Can you prove this?

 

Wlad has just come off beating the second best HW in the entire division in Povetkin, so he makes a mandatory and then fights the new second best guy in the division Pulev. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that fighting the two best sandwhiched around a mandatory. If he unifies the belt against the arreola/Stiverne winner who will be the third best instead that is also fine. Until he dispatches Leapai and then fights another lackluster opponent no one should have Anything to gripe about.

 

- Can you prove this?

- Whats Leapai's ranking?

- Yes and you're wrong.

- I've already addressed it. Guy pulls out of fights yet leapfrogs the guys he pulls out against? :rofl:

 

Not really. Maricano retired lineal in the 50s.

Than he is undisputed Champion.

Even before the days of alphabets and mandatories, this is not uncommon. Busy defenses against lower tier fighters in the off season or while battling injures like Wlad has is not uncommon. What's ignored is Wlad has managed to fight one RING ranked contender a year, which is not bad.

Lower weight classes have more options. Wlad can't make a superfight with the LHW Champion or do a catchweight with the Light Middle Champion. That said, Mayweather and Ward have been fighting once or less a year, that type of activity and your few spacious fights need to be big. If they fought twice or more a year, such match ups would be more forgiven and probably more common.

 

-Chef has proven to be right most of the time.

-He is not ranked by RING.

-How am I wrong?

-So you can't prove Wlad manipulated the WBO rankings?

 

- I'll believe it when I see it, until then it's a clear duck.

- exactly.

- So who manipulated the WBO rankings ? Or is it just WBO being inept?

 

The lineal title has been broken many times first with james j jeffries, gene Tunney, Marciano, and so on. Lewis was just the last in a long line to break the link. It eventually goes to the next hw viewed as the best. So Wlad is the lineal champ. He is not undisputed champ unless he gets the WBC belt.

Mormeck, wach, pianeta are less than stellar opponents but at the time Wlad fought them who was out there posing a serious threat he has cleaned out the division of top contenders. He defeated a prime, Haye a prime Povetkin a prime Thompson that hadn't lost in 10yrs, Peter 2x, Thompson again. Byrd 2x, Brock, chagaev, ibragimov, chambers and so on

 

-It will only be a duck if the fight does not happen in a timely manner or Pulev is dismissed outright as an opponent (Wlad saying as much/title trashing as we've seen in the past). It would be wise to withhold judgement until that comes to pass.

-But he has a win over a RING ranked contender which gives him some merit as a challenger.

-No more inept than any other organization. They are never going to name the same fighters as mandatories as that is not in their best interest and will manipulate to prevent this.

 

In real terms, sure hes undisputed. In that no one disputes him being No.1.

Maybe you have a point about not being able to make certain fights due to the weight hes in.

He could still make numerous better fights than Leapai.

Wlad pretty much fights with the same frequency as Floyd these days. About twice a year.

We'll have to agree to disagree. My main point is that no top ranked HW should ever lower himself to getting in the ring with the likes of Leapai and a shot cruiser like Mormeck.

Before I think, you had a situation where him and Vitali shared the fights together. "You fight this guiy, Ill fight that guy" Maybe now that Vitali is gone, you'll have more high ranking fights.

This is mostly an issue of having WAY too many belts around these days.

 

In a timely manner? Pulev has been a mando longer than Leapai has.

Why are Wlad fans so intellectually dishonest? how can a 10 rounder determine who the next heavyweight title challenger is?

Only the WBO can pull these types of shenanigans, its why theyll never be considered a legit title