Boxrec's rating method.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Robney, Mar 30, 2014.


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  1. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    After last night I'm certain it isn't a complete computer programmed rating method.
    I always had that idea when rankings shfited after big fights, but now I saw that they actually manually change things how they see fit.

    Kovalev had just won his fight last night, and I went to BR to see if it had already been updated. I saw it wasn't but he was very close to Pascal and Stevenson before the fight and would probably surpass them.
    The difference between Pascal and Stevenson was the thing that caught my eye the most. Pascal had 558 points and Stevenson had only a single point more at 559, wich I thought was weird anyway.

    Now the update has been made and Kovalev indeed surpasseed Pascal, but not Stevenson who magically got a 251 point bonus added to his name :blood

    Of course I can't prove this because I didn't get screenshot or anything like that, cause who would actually do that, but for me it's clear now that they obviously get manipulated as much as alphabet ranks.

    That was my rant... now back to everyday life ;)
     
    Robney, Mar 30, 2014
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  2. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good spot, Ill have to look out for that.

    Maybe moving to Al Haymon and Showtime gets you boxrec points :D
     
    Collie, Mar 30, 2014
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  3. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Well done for spotting that, and thank you for bringing it to our attention.
     
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  4. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Boxrec still has Bute in the top 10 LHW's which is utterly ridiculous. Every ranking system, human (biased) or "mathematical", is flawed.
     
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  5. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    boxrecs obviously rates americans and brits way too highly. it kind of seems an autistic kid compiled the rankings.
     
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  6. Escopeta

    Escopeta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    according to google cache, Stevenson had 859 points on March 11..
     
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  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    So that means I just read it wrong :!:
    Guess that voids this thread for the most part.
     
    Robney, Mar 30, 2014
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  8. FrancescoD

    FrancescoD Active Member Full Member

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    Any rating system will never agree with everyone's opinion. I produce the Independent World Boxing Rankings, we started over 20 years ago and for the last 14 years produced the IBO ratings. When you have objective ratings you have to have rules and rules sometimes can't see the rapid decline of a fighter. We too have Lucien Bute high. You can check them out by typing (I am not allowed to publish links) Independent world boxing rankings then dotcom.
     
    FrancescoD, Mar 30, 2014
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  9. FrancescoD

    FrancescoD Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe Boxrec have adopted a formula change. Eddie Chambers was 15 at heavyweight last night now he is 29.
     
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  10. Eastcoast

    Eastcoast Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Martin Murray ranked in the top 10 at MW is proof alone that there's a heavier weight to human opinion than a strict computer ranking.
     
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  11. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, it's a strict computer ranking. Everyone is subject to the same formula.
     
    Stylez G., Mar 30, 2014
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  12. Eastcoast

    Eastcoast Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then the draw with Sturm must carry a lot of weight because there's nothing on his record from a non-biased computer ranking system standpoint to suggest he belongs where he's at.
     
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  13. FrancescoD

    FrancescoD Active Member Full Member

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    You can go up with a loss with Boxrec, if you narrowly lose to a much higher ranked fighter.
     
    FrancescoD, Mar 30, 2014
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  14. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you throw out any sort of ranking, you will find someone who says that someone doesn't deserve the ranking they have. It's impossible to have a system that everyone agrees with.
     
    Stylez G., Mar 30, 2014
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  15. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its accurate & correct they can't hide **** like what you claimed :patsch
     
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