Why not Ward vs Kovalev?

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  1. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    we should be talking about ward/groves right now. unfortunately froch was saved again by the local commission. hopefully groves takes them out of the equation in the rematch.
     
  2. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    try reading the whole post. i didn't even say that in my post dumbass.
     
  3. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    exactly. ppl don't get it. i agree.
     
  4. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward/Gennady is the big fight now. I expect Ward to fight Kovalev later at 175.
     
  5. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    homotions? i'll give you that one. that's a pretty good made up word to insult.

    it is a business, i accept that. but has Ward tried to make this fight only to be told not enough money is on the table? no he hasn't. so don't try that one here.

    Ward got paid more money than he should have been paid last time out. i'm sure he'd get another load of money if Kovalev was in the opposite corner. but this time, he'll be worth the money that comes his way. and Kovalev isn't one for asking for too much, so i think he'd even take less than Rodriguez was paid. which means more money for Ward. so it makes business sense. but Ward hasn't got that far yet. not even close. he should now try to make moves on the fight. it's there waiting for him. when he finds the stones to do so of course.

    is Ward going to go to the UK to fight the winner of Froch/Groves? he wasn't interested before unless he got paid more than the money man of the division. which is absolute criminal. but i don't see you complain about that "business sense" just as long as it suits Ward, hey. i know where you're coming from. it's called "biased way".

    Hagler would have had to move all the way up to LHY from MW. that's a big jump up. but due to there now being the SMW division (Ward's weight class) the jump is nowhere near as bad as it once was. plus, Ward used to be a LHW. it's probably his more natural weight.

    no reason then why Ward should not take this fight. especially since he was crying about the politics of boxing not so long ago when trying to get the fights he wanted (the massive hypocrite). but here he has a fighter in search of a big fight signed to the same TV company as he is. and one that has never asked for too much money.

    it all makes perfect sense!!

    but keep defending Ward with the most ridiculous excuses that i've ever seen from the scary reality that he (and you) is scared stiff of. :deal
     
  6. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :huh Groves is tied up for the moment. Ward and Kovalev are not.

    it's not hard to understand.
     
  7. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If they both keep winning, this fight should happen when award moves up in weight.
     
  8. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    in your first post, you said: Kovalev hasn't really done enough to earn the fight.

    you should try and keep track of what you're writing.
     
  9. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    this is utter bollocks. you're claiming the bbbc favoured 1 brit over another?
     
  10. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    Farmboxer will tell you why not Ward vs Kovalev
     
  11. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    Andre Bored is too busy trying to sue his promoter and crying his eyes out over that hyped up Eurobot stealing his ppv fight with Chavez.





    Yo, bah-xin is a bizzniz, ya dig dawg?
     
  12. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    kovalev vs ward should be a ppv fight because the risk both are taking is tremendous. as it stands....kovalev apparently didn't draw very big ratings in his last fight...nor did he draw a big crowd. how exactly are they going to generate more revenue if he's not drawing viewers or putting asses in seats? die hards know kovalev...and at this point, we'd be the only ones watching. as someone who loves boxing....i'd hate to see a match up like this happen so prematurely. it can be big....but it has to be built.

    as for ward going to the uk to fight froch or groves....it goes back to that being in the drivers seat thing. groves got jobbed against froch. so did dirrell and kessler. why would it be in different for ward? and why would ward put himself in that position?

    i'm just viewing this from a business stand point. remove yourself from a fans perspective and gain some understanding.
     
  13. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    right...i didn't say.... "he is not worthy enough"

    at least quote me accurately. :lol:
     
  14. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    yup and groves would be saying the same if he didn't fear the reprecussions of doing so.

    froch is their guy. don't believe me? go back and watch his fight against dirrell and kessler.
     
  15. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Duva herself says Ward is a "future" fight. They are in no hurry for the fight either. Not because they are afraid of winning/losing... but because with Kovalev being contracted to, and Stevenson bailing from HBO - Kovalev is going to get to fight 3 times a year on the network. He is going to get the marketing attention once pegged for Stevenson, and he is only 31 which is young for a LHW.

    Ward has a few marquee fights coming up in the relatively near future at 168 once he gets away from Goossen and signs with TR that might make him a PPV draw. So there is no hurry here. Kovalev will Krush Kans and build ratings while Ward aims for the post-FMJ #1 p4p, and all live happily ever after in the piles of money the fight generates when it happens.

    Honestly I dont want Ward to move to LHW just yet, he has said he would like to - but his team says not yet - that means 168 getting hard and if he went to LHW coming back down even harder. I want to see Ward/GGG and Ward/Groves first.