Why not Ward vs Kovalev?

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  1. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    why does it need to be PPV? Ward wasn't on PPV before when he got paid, but it's now a problem?. you're starting to sound like Adonis for crying out loud.

    do we know the viewing figures for Kovs fight at the weekend? he did better when he fought in Canada over what Ward is getting. but if you have the viewing figures for the weekend just gone, what were they?

    the fight could take place in Oakland. again, has Ward got that far to be told otherwise? if not, then why are you using this as an excuse for the fight not pulling in enough fight fans?

    we would be the only ones watching? so a full house in Oakland, and ratings that HBO will be happy with, means no one will be watching? right. why i'm bothering with this **** i don't know. because i can clearly see you for what you are. but hey ho.

    Kessler and Dirrell got jobbed???? with the money side of things? i think your replies are in meth head territory now. neither of them got jobbed in any one area. but Kessler got jobbed when fighting in Jokeland with all the cheating Andre did along side his corrupt ref. no mention of that from you though is there?

    Froch is the money man. if Froch loses to Groves, Groves will become the new money man. if the only way a fight takes place in the UK is through Ward getting the lions share, then both you and Ward are talking garbage that should be ignored. no one should have to sit and listen to delusion in the extreme. Ward will get paid bigger than he ever will for the fight, whoever it is. but he certainly won't be getting the bigger slice of the pie.

    you're looking at this from a biased view point. your posts are littered with this garbage. :deal
     
  2. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    although you're still chatting out your arse, you referenced 2 non brits. if it's questionable refereeing i'm after, i'll watch ward being allowed to drop the nut on kessler at will.
     
  3. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:

    "Kovalev hasn't really done enough to earn the fight"

    "he is not worthy"

    they pretty much mean the same to me. :patsch
     
  4. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Froch is their guy? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    the BBBofC don't have any "guys".

    what a silly thing to say.
     
  5. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "make Ward a PPV draw"

    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    not even magic fairies could do that!
     
  6. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interestingly enough, Virgil Hunter has gone on record saying the "hasnt done enough" is BS - this from Wards own guy. He says back in the day you fought a top15 challenger and fought often and thats the way it should be.

    Ward frustrated not being able to fight. If he gets his promotion settled, when he moves to LHW he will undoubtedly face Kovalev first or second (maybe Pascal first - I see Ward and Pascal both signing to TR in the near future).
     
  7. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    ppv is how they generate more money. ward has paid his dues and wants to be paid what he's worth. no crime in that.

    i saw something on fb about the viewership. not sure how reliable that was...

    i thought dirrell beat froch 8-4. i thought kessler beat froch as well. as for the ward/kessler fight...steve smoger is one of my favorite refs because he lets them fight. with that being said...he does miss a lot of what happens and that fight could have played out differently with a different ref. i'll agree. but the judges in the froch fights against dirrell and kessler are what i had an issue with.

    last i checked....ward beat froch...not the other way around. ward doesn't need to rematch froch...and he definitely doesn't need to go to england to fight him.

    my posts are speculation on what i know from boxing. i'm not new to this. take my opinions for what they are...posts on an anonymous forum. you are entitled to form your own opinion, how ever foolish i make think it is...i'll still respect it.

    let's watch this thing play out and see who's opinion is closer to what actually happens. i won't throw it in your face if i'm right. maybe then you'll respect my opinion a little more...but if you don't, i won't be bothered one bit.
     
  8. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    smoger is a favorite ref here in the u.s. because he lets the fight play out and doesn't intervene too much like that bloke that ref'ed froch/groves. what a piece of shite **** that fella was. smh.
     
  9. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    "he's not worthy" in my opinion suggests he doesn't belong in the same ring and won't present a challenge. i don't believe that to be the case.

    "kovalev hasn't really done enough to earn the fight" suggests that he needs to do a bit more to get the shot at ward.

    at least that's how i interpret it. :)
     
  10. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    right...because they are on the up and up and would never compromise their standing by showing favoritism or bias...

    if u believe that, i have a bridge i want to sell you.
     
  11. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    they once said floyd wouldn't be a ppv draw either. they said he couldn't draw flies to ****. look at him now.

    against the right opposition promoted in the proper fashion....ward will be a ppv draw.

    fights against ggg, chavez, stevenson and kovalev all have ppv potential.

    the sad part is i believe ppv to be bad for boxing because it limits viewership. the truth is...it's the only way they are going to generate the money they deserve to be paid to face each other.
     
  12. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yep. both Ward and Virgil need to stay away from making comments in the media. they expose themselves each and every time. it's embarrassing what they say.

    if Ward genuinely makes moves to fight the best while talking sense about money splits and what not, then i'm cool with that. but we'll see. the evidence so far doesn't look promising though.
     
  13. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the way Dirrell went about his job against Froch was shameful. don't defend that crap.

    you thought Kessler won the rematch?? Froch won wide on the cards. the win was legit.

    i'm not wasting any more of my time on this. it's pointless.
     
  14. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    even with the panicky stoppage it was a better reffing performance than smoger's in kessler ward, with minimal interference prior to the stoppage.
     
  15. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    they have nothing to gain by showing bias. but if you want to believe that, go ahead. it makes no sense to me though.