Maidana is going to get schooled vs Floyd.. fact is Broner was NOT 147 fighter yet

Can't argue with any of this :deal

 

yes he is not in the top 5 no way

 

Broner can box. Broner has to work on his inside game against guys who look to brawl. Broner is good at picking shots off in the pocket, but brawling is something he has not experienced in a fight until he fought Maidana. He got caught early and kept on trying to stay in the pocket instead of just using his boxing skills. Maidana wasn't trying to sit back and let Broner box. Broner never got himself together-because of Maidana.

 

That's where you're mistaken.

He can't box. He has no footwork, and while he has shown the ability to throw with power, he throws a lot of arm punches.

Where have you seen Broner utilize his boxing skills?

He's never had to. He's always been the bigger, stronger, man.

Nobody has ever forced him to box, not even Maidana, but that's because Broner doesn't know how to box.

Like I've said a dozen times.

Broner is a slugger.

He is most effective against small guys that come right at him and throw a lot of punches.

He can also beat small guys that move away from him; however, Broner isn't a volume puncher, so he has trouble beating guys like that.

That's why you could argue the Malinaggi fight could have gone either way.

Broner was given the benefit of the doubt because while Malinaggi landed more punches, it was percieved that Broner was a power puncher at the time.

So apparently, he landed the harder blows.

But at the end of the day, until Broner learns how to utilize the jab, and to walk people around the ring, he isn't a boxer.

He's a slugger, which is why he would lose against guys like Maidana, Rios, Provo, Garcia, and Mathyyse.

Even if he does manage to beat a guy like maybe Provo or Maidana in the rematch, his inability to box, means he takes a beating in the process.

He's not a guy that's going to have a long career, but he will always be exciting because he lacks skills.

 

You'll see why you're wrong about Maidana not letting Broner box when Mayweather fights him.

You'll see Mayweather easily win the fight with his jab and his foot movement.

Mayweather is going to try to avoid fighting Maidana in the pocket because Maidana is wild and could hit him with something behind the head or use dirty tactics.

Mayweather is going to box Maidana.

At least initially. If Maidana slows down, then yes, absolutely, Mayweather will fight Maidana in the pocket, but it's not going to be that tough of a fight.

Maidana doesn't have a jab like Cotto.

 

Broner is not a slugger. He never was and he never will be. He tried to stay in the pocket against Maidana using the shoulder roll and he found out that not all guys are Antonio Demarco. Maidana throws shots from awkward angles-looking to brawl. Maidana is an intelligent brawler. Maidana outbrawled, out slugged and outboxed Broner.

 

I think your concept of a slugger is skewed.

Just because you're a slugger, doesn't mean you can't have decent defense.

A slugger is a guy that doesn't like to throw a lot of punches. Doesn't like to move around the ring that much. And basically likes to hit his man with some hard punches, make them fall down, and go home.

That's been Broner's career for a while until he moved up and found out that he had to make adapations...

Well actually, he didn't find that out, which is why he got his ass beat.

If he learns how to box, and stops throwing so many arm punches, he could improve a great deal. I'm not saying the kid can't improve, I'm just saying, up until this point...and it remains to be seen until he proves otherwise...Broner can't box for ****.

I don't know what your situation with this guy is...

I mean, maybe you don't wanna know things and you prefer people to lie to you. I don't know you deal...

Maybe you got a relationship with this man...I'm not sayin you gay, but...you know...whatever kind of relationship...for all I know, he could be your brother...but your brother or your lover (it is 2012 afterall) can't box for ****.

And what you're recommending isn't gonna do **** for his career unless you wanna see your man take a beating time after time after time.

Demarco is a small ass dude compared to the guys Broner is getting in the ring with right now. Wasn't Demarco a southpaw too?

I can't remember. But that's another element within itself.

 

Broner and Maidana are two completely different fighters and their experience is night and day.

 

Only reason he is ranked high is cause broner was getting a massive push.

 

wow. genius.

alezxandra 12-0 madona.:hi:

too late the hero.

 

Look, I'm assuming we both know boxing so you don't have to explain styles to me. Second, what you just said no offense...makes you appear clueless to me about styles. Broner isn't a slugger. He is a boxer who can't fight inside yet. We have to find out if he has that in his game or if he will ever make that a part of his game.

 

A boxer is a guy that uses his feet to move around the ring, utilizing the jab, and creating angles.

Broner doesn't do this.

He slowly walks his opponent down, or he stands in the middle of the ring, waiting for his opponent to attack.

Broner isn't a volume puncher because he doesn't throw that many punches. He's not a guy that overwhelms you with a volume of punches, he breaks you down with a few, and typically gets a KO.

He found out the hard way, he can't do this at 147.

He never made any adaptation. He looked clueless and reverted back to the only thing he knows which is trying to walk Maidana down, despite getting pummeled in the process.

You're going to see the difference when Floyd fights Maidana. He's not going to try to walk Maidana down or stand in front of Maidana and try to fight him on the inside, he's going to walk him around the ring and pick him apart.

That's boxing.

Broner hasn't shown he can do that, which is why he has to run down another weight class because he has no idea how to box.

If he knew, fighting at 147 would be no problem.

When he gets his ass beat again at 140, you'll see what I'm talking about.

 

Nothing new

 

Larry Holmes didn't dance around, and he was considered a boxer. You don't have to be a mover or move to be considered a boxer. Keeping your man in front of you and making him respect you with the jab or blazing combos is also a part of boxing.

Parrying is a lost art nowadays.

Broner doesn't do this which is why he got hit a lot against Maidana. Broner isn't a volume puncher. He is a precision puncher who tries to get the most out of each shot. Broner found out that not everyone will be instantly hurt when he lands-and he didn't have ww power.

Floyd parries, Floyd moves, Floyd has speed, and Floyd can fight inside. That is the difference between Floyd and Broner so there is no "wait and see".

 

Holmes is a heavyweight, but Holmes still used movement.

And you just solidified my point.

He's a puncher that tries to get the MOST out of every punch.

He's a slugger. Doesn't mean he can't be a couterpuncher, doesn't mean he can't have decent defense.

The dude is a slugger.

He can't box.

I never said he was a volume puncher. In fact, I said he was NOT a volume puncher.

The dude is a slugger.

If he wasn't, he would stay at 147, but he has to run down to 140 to avoid numerous ass whipping, when in reality, he's going to get numerous ass whippins at 140 too because he doesnt' know how to use his legs.

He's not a boxer.

You're going to find that out when he fights his first LIVE opponent.

Now, if he changes in that time period, I'll note that.

But if he doesn't, well, his ring IQ is low, and he just doesn't know how to box and can't learn.

He'll always be in an exciting fight though.

And you're right, Floyd CAN do all that, but he KNOWS what style to use against certain opponents.

Although, he didn't use his legs enough against Cotto and he took an ass whippin and almost quit the sport.

But he used his legs against Canelo and made it look relatively easy. Same with Guerrero.

He will do the same against Maidana.

Floyd CAN box.

Broner CAN'T box.

What is so hard to understand? You just proved my point by describing his style.