Nayoya Inoue versus Adrian Hernandez this weekend in Tokyo

This is just marketing :roll:

 

He's been in Japan for a week or two already

 

A "Prodigy" vs a very solid fighter in his prime. This is one of the most interesting under-the-radar fights in a while.

I'm guessing Hernandez was offered some decent money to take this fight cause he's almost in a no-win situation.

 

What a **** article, you'd think Lomachenko raped the guys mother considering how much he talks about him. It sounds like he's only seen Lomachenko against Salido (talking about clinching which Loma has never done before Salido, then talking about inside fighting/uppercuts - which is how Lomachenko won all his amateur fights). And to claim that Hernandez is better than Salido? Good fighter, but no, just no.

Inoue should win a points decision, Hernandez has zero head movement and loads up on his punches, he'll get picked off if Inoue boxes. Inoue is very textbook but is a bit lacking in the head movement department as well, you can see him sometimes standing still and just getting tagged for no reason so maybe Hernandez can land one of his looping bombs (sometimes the hardest punch for a text book fighter to defend against).

 

If you look at the Japanese press this is completely the opposite of under the Radar. Naoya's just had a book published on his journey so far, the Japanese press are in love with the kid and the fight will be on free to air Japanese TV. MASSIVE deal over there.

 

I did a thread with a little brief breakdown of Inoue which I'll post on the bottom of this post, I should have posted on this thread earlier instead of create a new one.

As for your article...WSB is much closer to amateur boxing than professional boxing. a. Padded gloves like amateurs b. 5 rounds is closer to 3 than 12. c. Standing 8 count like amateurs d. Point scoring like amateurs. Professional judging are less nazi when it comes to clean punches landed, although amateurs are rewarding aggression in general too now.

Lomachenko can have 80 WSB fights, he still would have had the same problem with his pacing strategy.

I think a top amateur can be matched with a world champ - just because Loma chose to focus on pacing strategy which ****ed things up for him, it doesn't mean he wasn't capable of beating him. In my opinion, he did beat Salido and Salido should have been disqualified also.

'Whilst Salido was ranked the #6 featherweight for his own supposed passing of the torch, Hernandez is the #1 light-flyweight in the world' - It's about the quality behind the numbers, and Hernandez being no.1 certainly doesn't make him better than Salido either. You didn't give any reason why Hernandez is better, and any argument would be very poor.

Lomachenko from WSB in terms of skills/performance > Inoue.

I'm really rooting for Inoue though, anyone who takes the fast track. Even his younger brother is trying to be more ambitious than Inoue himself!

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Highly skilled, lovely body puncher, very fast, nice reflexes, he's actually impressive on the counter, good combinations. He does have a good jab too.

However, you're seeing a fighter who will be a very good pro, but remember he was a top amateur. Right now you're seeing him do impressive work against pros who have no answer and comparing him to a Lomachenko who has been so focussed on his pacing strategy that he hasn't actually been THE Lomachenko just yet and won't be THE Lomachenko until he has that part of his game sorted..so you're seeing Naoya dictating the fight.

HOWEVER, when he's not dictating, I see Naoya being caught out of position, I see him becoming very rash which I put down to lack of experience, but when he's rash he's not as intelligent as you'd like him to be, he has had a tendency to get hit by some big shots by Veitia and Zhakypov, right hooks being something he must learn to defend against.

- When he comes forward and his opponent is throwing, he comes forward head first and keeps his hands up guarding his face but he makes himself open to hooks to the head, and gruelling body shots to the side.

- He needs to improve his abilities to adapt DURING the fight, he just has all of the raw fundamentals to do so, I see a high ceiling for this guy, a very high ceiling but all of the chips must fall in the right places for that to be achieved.

What strikes me about Naoya is that he seems like the type that improves a lot, and his style provides him a great scope for improvements to take place. He had a damn close fight with Yosvany Veitia, a year after losing to him 0-11 too by the way so that loss on the hindsight looks impressive, especially given that he is actually very young too.

If Naoya focusses on improvement, just how he did in the amateurs, then he will be a great, great fighter as I know he will be given the lessons necessary to make him that great fighter, its up to him if he wants to take the defeatist approach and just hide behind the veil of his very, very good abilities and just soak up cheap validation wins and eventually become shopworn, or have a refreshing approach to boxing. You know as a teenager he's going to be wanting to improve, but what about when he has the £, already has a lot of 'good' wins, etc. will he bother?


To say he's better than Lomachenko is far-fetched to say the least. I have given reasons why people shouldn't go away thinking the Lomachenko that you all saw vs Salido isn't THE Lomachenko that will grace the ring shortly, look in my post history.

 

war japan. im a huge yamanaka fan

 

HUGE Shock at the pre-fight medical screen earlier today:
Hernandez Inoue
Height: 162cm 162cm

O_O
Also read that Inoue has the longer reach (these are taken from proper doctors)

 

Woop Woop thanks for the response McGrain. Don't argue, I hate that term.
I'd be open to your arguments but based on my assessments I don't understand why you'd think that Hernandez > Salido. I definitely don't buy into the argument that Salido is slipping. He came in the ring at 147lbs too which can compensate too. Nevertheless, Salido is a cerebral fighter where experience benefits him more than others, he looked deadly against Orlando Cruz, came on strong against Garcia before the bout was stopped.

The perception of fighters slipping unfortunately tends to originate whenever a fighter steps up in competition. Gamboa and Garcia were obviously going to beat him. Sure he may have lost 'something' in the Juanma wars but it seems so obvious that it hasn't. Just because he was knocked down by Garcia many times for example, this isn't evidence that he's past it either. The journeyman Haya hurt Salido more than Garcia did. Salido gets dropped all the time.

It would be a big shame if its considered pro because it's literally just the amateurs, but 2 more rounds. I'd be confused if say, Olympic boxers were not paid.

Ahh well now you said 'being the better pro'. I have actually stated in an earlier post that I don't blame PRO boxing fans for having a dip in confidence/interest in Lomachenko because Lomachenko didn't turn up because of his pacing strategy. I am rather annoyed why Loma didn't fight the fight that made him the Great he is today. Obviously it's easier to LOOK better against worse opposition like Inoue's, but now being aware of how Inoue deals with top opposition, I recognise there are things that need improving in his game. Nevertheless, the win over Hernandez does bridge that gap somewhat.

I pick Lomachenko's WSB performances over Inoue's pro wins by a wide margin. Eye-test tells me Lomachenko is just the better fighter if you look beyond amateurs (when I'm saying 'better fighter' in this regard', I'm talking about what I expect to see from both of them in the pros).

 

...wasn't Salido slipping when Haya almost took him out...or was Weng a step up?

 

:hey It's great that you spotted him early though, an Inoue hipster. Have you seen his brother? His brother seems to be moving even quicker in the career department!!